Cheap Silver Rose and Turbo

JM1962 · Mar 17, 2014

I was rather hoping prices might be on their way up, but maybe not.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Porsche-944-turbo-/181354049111?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2a398b2e57&nma=true&si=XtzZROWcu8%252BMQ42Vb%252BokieRVEvw%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Porsche-944-s-turbo-silver-rose-/171271940446?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item27e09a695e

MartinRS2K · Mar 17, 2014

Neither number rings (dead lines) and both cars are advertised well below what they are worth!!!

It smells like a scam [X(]

edh · Mar 17, 2014

I'm not sure this is a scam - the car was on sale 2 years ago (advertised on PCGB) in London & went to a chap (forum member) with a large collection of 944's in Yorkshire. I have lots of pics from the PO.

That Silver Rose isn't worth much more than 2k - it's very very rusty. (I think that's what I offered the PO) From what I saw of the pics it would need a lot of body repairs and then a full respray. After that it's still a 200k+ car. Nice interior though... Worth more in bits I guess, when the engine would miraculously lose all those miles...[8|]

JM1962 · Mar 17, 2014

The red one was sold within an hour of being listed. If its not a scam someone has a bargain. It says it was owned by a PCGB member for 25 years so maybe someone knows it.

edh · Mar 17, 2014

I've just looked at all the other cars for sale - a "real" dealer would have pictures all taken at the same spot wouldn't they?

Anyway - here's the owner..

http://www.porscheclubgbforum.com/tm.asp?m=745672&mpage=1&key=&#745752

MartinRS2K · Mar 17, 2014

Here's the reply I've just had from the seller [:-]

Hi,

The total price is £2000 including the shipping to your address. Price reduced for quick sale, and i have decided to sell it for a lower price because i need the money.
Currently i am located in Northern part of United Kingdom, in a beautiful sea-side city called Thurso, because i just finished the divorce with my wife and i have moved here to my parents home. The payment will be made through eBay and only after you will receive the item, i will receive the payment.
It will take around 3-5 working days until you will receive the item and you will have a 3 days inspection period (so you have 3 days to change your mind and refuse or keep it). Also, I need to know if you have cash in hand because I have a lot buyers interested in the purchase and I don't have time to waste. No offense but if you really want to buy it I will stop communicating with the other interested buyers.
If you are interested in buying it please provide me your full name and address so i can initiate the deal through eBay. You must know that eBay will contact you without any obligation to buy it or fees.
I will wait your answer (if you are interested to buy) very soon.

Regards

edh · Mar 17, 2014

Must have had his ebay account hacked

MartinRS2K · Mar 17, 2014

They are at this regularly now, wonder how many people get caught out [

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JM1962 · Mar 17, 2014

Definitely a scam then [

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Wouldn't have thought many people would get caught with that. You smell a rat as soon as you read the email and the guff about Thurso [

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simkin911 · Mar 17, 2014

Would have been a lovely drive up there too to pick it up and back.

simkin911 · Mar 17, 2014

I have texted Ian - eBay account hacked. He can't get onto pcgb either. So, definitely scams. Ian is trying to sort it out.

edh · Mar 18, 2014

Shame - I thought his 928GT looked a good buy.. [

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ChasR · Mar 18, 2014

It seems that the Silver Rose listing has been pulled as well!

If you wish to talk about cheap 951s then check this one out!:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1986-Porsche-944-turbo/171268916252?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.RVI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20646%26meid%3D5581832676028173835%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D9210%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D171268916252

Whilst I admit the Fuchs wheels are lovely on that, the price I am not so sure on, even in cars in Ireland command a premium over their UK counterparts. OTOH I am not sure why I mention this, since such examples only aid to boost the value of ours potentially.

MartinRS2K · Mar 19, 2014

ORIGINAL: ChasR

It seems that the Silver Rose listing has been pulled as well!

If you wish to talk about cheap 951s then check this one out!:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1986-Porsche-944-turbo/171268916252?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.RVI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20646%26meid%3D5581832676028173835%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D9210%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D171268916252

Whilst I admit the Fuchs wheels are lovely on that, the price I am not so sure on, even in cars in Ireland command a premium over their UK counterparts. OTOH I am not sure why I mention this, since such examples only aid to boost the value of ours potentially.

The back end of that car looks like a US car or is it a different sort of kit?

MartinRS2K · Mar 19, 2014

This car is being auctioned today by Cheshire Classic Car Auctions at 1pm

80,000 miles, comprehensive history with last owner for 5 years.

One problem which has come to light that the seller wasn't aware of, it is Cat D and has had a full new interior and some wiring/ECU's replaced so either a fire or water damage at some point [

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Estimate £8-9k so will be watching to see how it does.

http://www.cheshireclassiccarauctions.com/auction/lot/id/71

Frenchy · Mar 19, 2014

Car in Ireland has the horrible US Spec bumpers, not to keen on that aerial fitted to the rear wing also.

andrew_churcher · Mar 19, 2014

ORIGINAL: MartinRS2K

This car is being auctioned today by Cheshire Classic Car Auctions at 1pm

80,000 miles, comprehensive history with last owner for 5 years.

One problem which has come to light that the seller wasn't aware of, it is Cat D and has had a full new interior and some wiring/ECU's replaced so either a fire or water damage at some point []

Estimate £8-9k so will be watching to see how it does.

http://www.cheshireclassiccarauctions.com/auction/lot/id/71

So sounds like its worth about £3k then.

MartinRS2K · Mar 19, 2014

ORIGINAL: andrew_churcher

ORIGINAL: MartinRS2K

This car is being auctioned today by Cheshire Classic Car Auctions at 1pm

80,000 miles, comprehensive history with last owner for 5 years.

One problem which has come to light that the seller wasn't aware of, it is Cat D and has had a full new interior and some wiring/ECU's replaced so either a fire or water damage at some point []

Estimate £8-9k so will be watching to see how it does.

http://www.cheshireclassiccarauctions.com/auction/lot/id/71

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So sounds like its worth about £3k then.

By all accounts he has had the car 5 years with no issues and was very surprised to hear it was Cat D.

Looking at its condition and mileage I don't think the price is too far off. Also if the issue was over 10 years ago will it matter that much in another 5 years?