Clubsport Conundrum

[964RS]

I've been offered a German 968. Appearances suggest it to be a Clubsport. It has the correct serial number (although as we all know the Sports and Clubsports were made on the same production line and shared the same series of VIN numbers).

German documentation
Code on bonnet sticker is C00
Type on Fahrzeug-Identitatskarte is 968 C S

The PET V7 check of the chassis number reads: COU.CLUB-SP
Year on PET is 1993
Options on PET are: M219 M384 M385 M403 M419 M480 M488 M499 M564 M595 M605 M657 M990

The problem is that the UK DVLA V5 says Model/Type is: 968 SPORT.
Engine number reads: N/S
Colour: YELLOW
Seats: 2
Date of registration: 01 04 1993
Date of first registration in the UK: 26 08 2004

I believed that the Sport was a UK only model type in years 1994 and 1995 only.

The original seats and interior are long gone.
It has manual windows.
Battery is in the engine bay.
Correct Speed Yellow colour.
Non-sunroof.
Oddment tray between seats.

I'm wanting to only buy a Clubsport. Is this car a Clubsport? Did the DVLA write the wrong Model/Type on the V5 when it entered the country? Would you buy based on this documentation?

 

[Lowtimer]

It is not unknown for the DVLA to get details wrong. They are good at mis-transcribing pre-VIN chassis numbers in particular - if I recall corrrectly there is a story outlining an example of this in the current issue of Porsche Post.

I would simply ask Porsche what they think it is. If they say it's a CS, and are prepared to issue a Certificate of Authenticity saying it's a CS, then it's a CS.

 

[RSGulp]

ORIGINAL: Lowtimer

It is not unknown for the DVLA to get details wrong. They are good at mis-transcribing pre-VIN chassis numbers in particular - if  I recall corrrectly there is a story outlining an example of this in the current issue of Porsche Post.

I would simply ask Porsche what they think it is. If they say it's a CS, and are prepared to issue a Certificate of Authenticity saying it's a CS, then it's a CS.

And being a member of PCGB Paul it's free! Aaaah......... [][]

 

[Big Dave]

Paul.
You dont say if its a LHD or RHD car.
If has come from Germany then i suspect it is LHD.????
If so then YES its a CS, as ,as far as im aware there were no LHD Sports, as you correctly say the Sport varient was a UK version only..
Also All the Sports ive seen / known of , all have electric windows, only the CS has manual windows...
And I dont know of any Sport that doesnt have a sunroof.
And with it having the battery in the front / engine bay, i suspect its a LHD as theres no room in a RHD version....

As has been said previously DVLA have a habit of geting the V5,s wrong....[8|][8|]

You dont say how much it is.???

 

[964RS]

Thanks all. Yes Dave - good deduction - I meant to include it's LHD. It's all pointing to a mistake by the DVLA. Collection a week on Saturday. Best not to post pics until I have ownership - watch this space! []

 

[Big Dave]

I hope its a good un....

 

[kenilworth]

Hi Paul, I have a yellow German 968 Club Sport LHD. Give me a ring & I will talk you through the paperwork I have with the car & with the DVLA. Thanks, Russ 01352 740786.

 

[Mr968]

you may now have the car, hope it's going well for you,

the Sport designation was only used in the UK as you know. It was basically a marketing name, in truth the Sport is a Club Sport, just ordered from Germany with extra options by Porsche Cars GB and then a Sport badge stuck on the back. With the details you have posted, it's definitely a CS.

It is not unknown for the DVLA to get details wrong.

Absolutely.

 

[964RS]

Thanks Stuart. Sorry I missed you at the Autosport show as I went on Sunday. Car now in full preparation for Porsche Championship. Thanks for info. As you confirm - it is certainly a Clubsport and I'm delighted. It has raced before for only 5 races but the regulations have evolved and therefore it needs further updates.

Cheers.

 

[Steve Brookes]

ORIGINAL: 964RS

Thanks Stuart. Sorry I missed you at the Autosport show as I went on Sunday. Car now in full preparation for Porsche Championship. Thanks for info. As you confirm - it is certainly a Clubsport and I'm delighted. It has raced before for only 5 races but the regulations have evolved and therefore it needs further updates.

Cheers.

You kept that quiet!!!! [8D]

 

[964RS]

It kind of crept up on me. I think the racing chose me! As you may recall - I've been considering getting a 968 Clubsport for a few years. Just never seen the 'grail' car 'til now. Had to be LHD, non-sunroof, LSD and MO30. Well a car with that the right spec (with after-market options) was available but happened to have been a mint road-car but converted and raced in 2008. Anyway - after discussions with the owner and meetings with Chris Clarke and Steve Kevlin - things just seemed to drop into place.

 

[Big Dave]

Paul,
We shall look forward to seeing you battling it out with the rest of the 968,s at a track soon.
Whos preping it for you.?

Oh and PS, it pretty darn fierce at the front of the field ....[][][][]
Have fun..

 

[Steve Brookes]

Great to hear you're having a go at racing Paul [] The trouble is....I won't know whether to cheer for you or for the boys in the 964s []

 

[964RS]

Should be a few passes I can give you throughout the season - do I have to provide the tea and cakes too? []

 

[Steve Brookes]

ORIGINAL: 964RS

Should be a few passes I can give you throughout the season - do I have to provide the tea and cakes too? []

I'll provide those and change your brakes for you []

 

[Mr968]

sounds like deja vu, and Steve does bring exceedingly nice cakes []

 

[964RS]

This is how the car looked last week. Now the lightweighting is in progress. MO30 callipers & discs and Mintex F3R pads installed.

 

[MarkK]

I am in the middle of a a 968 race car prep are you using drilled discs or going for solids?Looks like there will be a fair field of 968s racing this year compared to last season anyway..
Wonder how they will compare to Boxster 3.2s ...????

 

[paulf968]

Hi, Mark & Paul

Just to mention I believe Andy Duncan of Ninex will also be coming out in his 968 this season - so plenty of 'frontrunners' to challenge those from the 'dark side' [][]

Roll on April 9th at Brands

 

[964RS]

ORIGINAL: MarkK

I am in the middle of a a 968 race car prep are you using drilled discs or going for solids?Looks like there will be a fair field of 968s racing this year compared to last season anyway..
Wonder how they will compare to Boxster 3.2s ...????

Solid Mark. Replace the front fog-lights with a brake cooling duct or combined cooling duct/lighting. Also - leave the scoop on that deflects the air flow under the nose and outwards to the inside of the disc. [8|]

Experience on the 964 is that drilled discs crack between the holes. The discipline required is to 'drill' out the holes after each trackday to prevent a solid build-up that a) decreases the braking effectiveness and b) causes the cracks. So I'm told. [8|]

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