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Clutch gone - flywheel at same time?

Mark Elder

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Hi all, I need to get my clutch done[:eek:]. It's been very heavy and biting high up for a while and now the rev counter is up and down like a yo-yo as soon as I add a bit of pedal. It's gone rather early (30,000 miles, but early years were in London so....)

Question: My indy says the flywheel costs 270 pounds and "may" be worth doing while we are in there. How does flywheel wear relate to clutch wear? - or are they completely unrelated? I don't really understand what there is in a flywheel to wear.

Any views?
 
ORIGINAL: marke2

Hi all, I need to get my clutch done[:eek:]. It's been very heavy and biting high up for a while and now the rev counter is up and down like a yo-yo as soon as I add a bit of pedal. It's gone rather early (30,000 miles, but early years were in London so....)

Question: My indy says the flywheel costs 270 pounds and "may" be worth doing while we are in there. How does flywheel wear relate to clutch wear? - or are they completely unrelated? I don't really understand what there is in a flywheel to wear.

Any views?

Quite a bit if it's dual mass.
 
Also, you might like to consider an RS clutch and flywheel for a better throttle response and a bit of weight loss but there are idling issues. Certainly do the flywheel at the same time as the clutch though as you don't want to have to go through it all again later on.

My clutch is just nudging 80000 miles and has been quite stiff for the last 10000 but no slip yet. A trip to Leeds today, Cornwall on Sunday and on track at North Weald on Monday may be the end though...fingers crossed!


 
OPC did my clutch last year. I got RMS done at same time but they assured me the flywheel was fine. Feels like a new car still - pedal light and smooth. (Make sure they change the release bearing)

If they drop the engine get the plugs changed !!
 
John, How many miles had your car done when the clutch and release bearing where changed? Just trying to build a picture of what makes different parts wear.

Thanks for all the other advice - might have known I'd get the RS clutch suggestion here...
 
Not sure if you need to change flywheel. Do have the slave cylinder changed though. I also had master cylinder done at same time...made a huge difference to clutch feel (and likely future reliability).
 
If excess heat was generated by clutch slip then the flywheel may have been "blued" ie overheated. You would then need to change it.Ask me how I know this.

JohnC
993turbo
 
What are the idling issues with the RS clutch/flywheel?

The RS upgrade was mentioned to me as an option a long time ago (when I was considering a 993).

There's nothing in my car's history that says anything about a new clutch, and mine's at 104K so it is probably nearing the end of it's life. It was checked by Robinn ata 9M 8 months ago when they had it off to fix an oil leak elsewhere, and he said it was still fine for a few years yet (and he knows what mileage I do!)
 
ORIGINAL: sailor

If excess heat was generated by clutch slip then the flywheel may have been "blued" ie overheated. You would then need to change it.Ask me how I know this.

JohnC
993turbo

Go on then John - tell us all
 
The lighter flywheel causes the engine to stall when coming to a standstill and can give a wobbly idle. Not gone fitted but I still fancy it and given how the standard setup doesn't shed revs in the above situation I struggle to see why there should be a problem.
 
ORIGINAL: marke2

ORIGINAL: sailor

If excess heat was generated by clutch slip then the flywheel may have been "blued" ie overheated. You would then need to change it.Ask me how I know this.

JohnC
993turbo

Go on then John - tell us all

OK, marke, you asked for it.
Some years ago was on a trackday at Snetterton, belting round this quick track and wondering why my throttle control seemed all over the place.Or why I seemed to be getting lots of wheelspin on a dry track with FWD.Me mind was in total neutral. Then some heavy duty grinding noises started and the penny dropped.Got off the circuit, opened the boot and got a facefull of stinking fumes.The clutch had destroyed itself after 46 thou miles.Luckily the car had a warranty and an old mate of mine was one of the service managers at OPC Colchester. He persuaded the inspector that the "blued" flywheel was down to a slight oil leak causing clutchslip.
I only paid for a new clutch, but the warranty boys picked up the tab for all the labour and the flywheel.£434 for me and about £2 thou for them.

JohnC
993turbo X50
 

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