Diesel engine in a 944.

[ocallen]

Other than Porsche who are going to fit diesel engines somewhere in their range in the future, is there a VW or Audi turbo diesel engine that will fit into a 944 ?
The idea of a 3.0d turbo engine is quite interesting.

 

[rico76]

The 3.0l TDI V6 is 225 bhp standard with 500nm torque and with a remap its 267bhp and 575nm torque.

With that kind of power, I'd consider it!

 

[random hero]

Not 100% sure but i'm sure there was a thread on hear a while back about a 944 that had a diesel engine in it from germany ??

 

[944 man]

The was an article in PP YEARS ago, about a fellow who had fitted a BMW 525 TDSE engine into his 928S4, whilst it was rebuilt. He said that the torque was quite impressive...

 

[ikillcopiers]

You can put any engine in anything I was once told, it's just a case of patience, ingenuity......
And of course money......

I have thought of this in the past (have an old lux I use as a donor), and reckon the best alround
would be an Audi engine, due to the similarities with bell housings.

Originally I was thinking 2.5TDI 5 cylinder, but given modern engines it'd be a waste of time.

I'd go for a 1.9 / 2.0TDI, there's plenty of tuning bits for them, they'll make 200 bhp without
major hassle and good amounts of torque. It'll be easier to fit than a big heavy V6 too.

 

[tr7v8]

ORIGINAL: ikillcopiers

I'd go for a 1.9 / 2.0TDI, there's plenty of tuning bits for them, they'll make 200 bhp without
major hassle and good amounts of torque. It'll be easier to fit than a big heavy V6 too.

What a hideous diesel, I don't know why everyone raves about the VAG unit, razor torque peak & limited rev range. The Jag/Pug/Ford V6 diesel wouldn't be bad & it is probably lighter than the VAG lumps as it is composite Graphite crankcase. But still only gives power from 1200-4600RPM not the same as a nice revvy petrol.

 

[stjohnsmythe]

Most diesel engines are a fair bit heavier than their petrol counterparts so you'd probably be sacrificing the legendry handling that 944s have. Also, I don't think a diesel engine fits the 944 image at all, fine on a motorway mile muncher or daily snotter but not on an 80s sports car. All imho of course

 

[craig2105]

Madness.

Although the BMW 535D engine is a corker and makes the 944 seem rather sluggish whenever I drive one...

 

[sawood12]

I was going to say, what a great way to ruin the dynamics of the chassis. Putting the environmental con aside, I think that Diesels are great in family cars where you want a short stab of power every now and again but spend most of your time cruising around, but, as I found in my Brothers A4 2.0tlr TDi, as soon as you start to stretch their legs and drive them in a 'sporty' way, the narrow power and torque band is soon exposed and having one of those in a sports car would ruin it. Larger diesels have wider power bands but the engines are even heavier.

I think the best engine you could transplant into a 944 is the 2.5ltr turbo unit out of a Focus ST. What a great powerplant. Relatively small and compact so shouldn't upset balance too much, and has lots of punch and very tunable.

 

[Eldavo]

I can't help but wonder what one of those 1.4 tfsi vw engines that put out 168ps would be like in a sports car. Or more importantly, can you bolt 2 together to make a 2.8 litre 340 bhp beast? Would definately ruin the 50:50 weight balance but would be lots of fun!

 

[Suffolk944]

Each to their own I guess[&:][&o]

 

[ChasR]

It's not my thing but I'm not too bothered. At the end of the day, there's still quite a few 944s around, and well, engines seem to be thin on the ground for a few of the models (especially the S2s and 2.7s) these days .

 

[Pastry]

driven a friends' 1.9 tdi A3 and its quite nippy, nice torque lower the revs down then a whoosh from the turbo but the 4.5k redline had me bouncing off the limiter a bit... I always seemed to be changing gear too much and too soon.

He then drove my lux and kept changing up at 4000 revs the numpty. Just what we're used to I guess.

Having owned a Golf 1.9SDI oil tanker and having to drive it for 2 years i think id be physically sick if i ever saw a 944 with a VAG diesel in it. Plus they sound 'like a skeleton having a w*nk in a filing cabinet' as someone once put it.

 

[ikillcopiers]

Ye might not like those VAG diesels, but they are strong and reliable,
plentiful and easy to come by.

Company I was working for always had tonnes of vans and car vans,
Opels & Fords could never hold a candle to the VAG units, and they
seemed to be soft as sh*te too.
Those VAG units were making power about a decade before any
other manufacturers starting giving a toss about diesels.

They might not sound good, but they're a working engine first and foremost.
Things have changed a lot in the last 3 - 4 years, I wouldn't be as up to date
as I was back then.

I wouldn't put one in a 944 to be honest, it was something that crossed my mind
whilst munching Jaffa Cakes, that's about it!

 

[Suffolk944]

it was something that crossed my mind
whilst munching Jaffa Cakes, that's about it!

Ah that would explain it - Jaffa cakes mess with your mind ! []

 

[944Turbo]

I have an A6 3.0tdi, impressive engine considering the large amount of bulk it has to shift.

Not sure it would suit a 944 though, you would want some long gears and I imagine it would be difficult to get running - lots of complex looking electrical bits and I dont get much more than 35mpg anyway.

Tony