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Diet or turbo?

akwaugh

akwaugh

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Having now had my C4S for just under 2 years it's itchy feet time again. Brilliant car, make no mistake but I always feel I could do with more power.

I have, therefore, been looking at the Turbo and doing the associated man maths. I turns out to be feasible to go Turbo but should I?

Current position :

My car has had a sympathetic re-map which improved matters no end and with which I am happy, given that no other engine mods have happened.

The power/weight ratio question :

It has always been quite noticeable in any of my cars that when fuel load is at its minimum the car in question goes so much better - therefore it seems to me either I run with low fuel (I only ever carry around 30 litres for daily use anyway) or I remove the equivalent weight elsewhere. Taking the rear seat backs out has lost probably around 10-15kg, they are really, really heavy. I have in my possession a "carbon" bonnet which is, in reality (I think) lightweight fibreglass with carbon film but you never know. This should save another handful of kgs.

Theoretically deleting another 20kg or so should give me equivalency to taking 20 litres of fuel out, so I should feel a difference, I just won't know until I put the new bonnet on if I'm getting close or not.

Is there any sensible way to remove more weight (other than taking out the very slimline driver..), retaining some comforts - without costing an absolute fortune?
I would be interested to know who has taken their car to the the slimming farm and what has been done.

If not then a Turbo looks much closer to my horizon than before.
Decisions, decisions!
 
Replacing the front seats and removing the battery to the rear should do the trick.

Or put it all back to standard, sell it and use the proceeds toward a turbo (which makes more sense). [;)]

Regards,

Clive.
 
You could try and get rid of the 4wd mechanicals to save weight, effectively making it a C2S, won't do much for the resale value, but would surely lose a few kg's.
 
What he says above! Even if you could lose 200kg it still will have just 420 torques and not 700 (from 2000rpm) [;)]
 
Excellent responses bolstering man maths.
But will it be as simple to use as my daily driver which the 4S is? put on 12000 this year!
 
Three letters - YES (so long as you don't drive roads with humps and bumps that the C4S just clears)!
 
I visited Glasgow about 15 years ago, but not in a Porsche and it had a few bad roads so no doubt things are worse now. I do live about 2 miles down single track roads from the nearest A road and our roads can sometimes resemble a rally special stage whilst one throws you about like a rollercoaster at even 20mph. The Turbo copes with it all but when I was loaned a C4S I could drive the roads about 5 or 10 mph faster because of the increased ground clearance. However, the sharp blind bends make this somewhat dangerous!

I note that your C4S has the Tiptronic box. My first Porsche (997 Gen I) had the same but I much prefer the Gen II PDK. I sometimes miss the smooth start that the Tip 'box gave by starting off in 2nd and using the torque converter but everything else outweighs that by a factor of 4 or 5 times. I think the PDK is a fantastic 'box so - if you follow my advice and go for a Turbo make it a Gen II with a PDK gearbox. The first time your treat yourself to a launch control start you will understand why the Turbo is a far far better option than a diet [:D]
 
I always found that it was the torque that the Turbo brought to the party that was infectious [8D]
All the tuning but the Turbo could be as easy to drive as the C4S yet into an animal with a few presses and a stamp of the loud pedal.

The delivery really is worlds apart but the handling is what you'd be used to already.
I don't think the ownership costs (apart from purchase cost) is that much more than the C4S to be fair..

Have the test drive and enjoy the experience- I still remember my first time in a modern Turbo and that was a while ago [:D]
 
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