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Fab drive on sunday in the autumn sun. Arrived home and set about my usual waterless clean before bedding her down in the garage. Then i spotted it, champagne-sized bubbles on the front scuttle. Dealer supposedly had this fixed prior to collection (weeks' ago) assured me it was a 'proper job.' Clearly not!

So now will have to get the job done right. Want to get this done once. So far my shortlist is one; OPC Cambridge. Can anyone reccommend other body shops with Porsche and proper body work moulding experience in Northants, Cambs, Lincs., Rutland that can, if necessary (i have to think ahead to the worst case scenario), do full-on cut-out and re-fill metalwork as well as top drawer painting? I am happy to pay to do this right... IME that is the cheapest way to do any job.

Thx all

Jcx
 
Hi Joe,
Unfortunately I can't recommend a bodyshop in your area. However in my experience, its best to travel if it means you get a top job. I've heard good reports from Francis Tuthill based near Banbury.
I'm sure someone on here will be along to recommend someone near you.

ps. If you want to look after your paint work I would resist the waterless cleaning methods if I were you!
 

ORIGINAL: polar964

Hi Joe,
Unfortunately I can't recommend a bodyshop in your area. However in my experience, its best to travel if it means you get a top job. I've heard good reports from Francis Tuthill based near Banbury.
I'm sure someone on here will be along to recommend someone near you.

ps. If you want to look after your paint work I would resist the waterless cleaning methods if I were you!
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Thanks Paul. Re the waterless cleaning, it was in truth just a case of using autoglym detailing spray and a couple of micro fibre cloths to remove a bit of dust. If there is is even a bit of dirt i always wash. Am very anal about cleaning and waxing etc.
 
OPC is pointless as they sub the work out to a third party. Sorry I cant help with a recommendation, just ask the OPC who they use...
 
I think OPC Cambs has Lancaster Body shop on site. Am heading here on Weds 13th nov (tmw) for a pcgb regional meetand i hope they will have their restoration car on show. Perhaps a perfect reference. Also have a name up in Teesside who is very highly recommended.
 
Just a thought Joe. Sutton Coalfield OPC who won the 911 restoration competition had their 964 bodyshell prepared and painted at Shorade based in Cannock. The car will be on display at the Classic car show NEC this weekend then subsequently at their premises.
 

ORIGINAL: polar964

Just a thought Joe. Sutton Coalfield OPC who won the 911 restoration competition had their 964 bodyshell prepared and painted at Shorade based in Cannock. The car will be on display at the Classic car show NEC this weekend then subsequently at their premises.
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Perfect thx. Well worth knowing. I may go this weekend... Anyone else going?!
 
ORIGINAL: JCx964

Fab drive on sunday in the autumn sun. Arrived home and set about my usual waterless clean before bedding her down in the garage. Then i spotted it, champagne-sized bubbles on the front scuttle. Dealer supposedly had this fixed prior to collection (weeks' ago) assured me it was a 'proper job.' Clearly not!

So now will have to get the job done right. Want to get this done once. So far my shortlist is one; OPC Cambridge. Can anyone reccommend other body shops with Porsche and proper body work moulding experience in Northants, Cambs, Lincs., Rutland that can, if necessary (i have to think ahead to the worst case scenario), do full-on cut-out and re-fill metalwork as well as top drawer painting? I am happy to pay to do this right... IME that is the cheapest way to do any job.

Thx all

Jcx
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I had some panels on my 996 resprayed (N/S complete, bonnet, PU and N/S front wing) at OPC Cambridge who have their own body shop on site and did a great job at a very competitive price, better than independent, about 14 months ago and still looks great.[:D]
 

ORIGINAL: PORKA

ORIGINAL: JCx964

Fab drive on sunday in the autumn sun. Arrived home and set about my usual waterless clean before bedding her down in the garage. Then i spotted it, champagne-sized bubbles on the front scuttle. Dealer supposedly had this fixed prior to collection (weeks' ago) assured me it was a 'proper job.' Clearly not!

So now will have to get the job done right. Want to get this done once. So far my shortlist is one; OPC Cambridge. Can anyone reccommend other body shops with Porsche and proper body work moulding experience in Northants, Cambs, Lincs., Rutland that can, if necessary (i have to think ahead to the worst case scenario), do full-on cut-out and re-fill metalwork as well as top drawer painting? I am happy to pay to do this right... IME that is the cheapest way to do any job.

Thx all

Jcx
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I had some panels on my 996 resprayed (N/S complete, bonnet, PU and N/S front wing) at OPC Cambridge who have their own body shop on site and did a great job at a very competitive price, better than independent, about 14 months ago and still looks great.[:D]
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ah good news! may i ask what you paid pls? i am inclined to paint a few extra bits at the same time if it pays to do so.

thx
 
Hi,
The final bill was £1426 and also qualified for a "Porsche lifetime guarantee of repair" and I have a letter to prove it.[8D]
 
The problem with the OPC places are that they are just used to repairing newish cars where corrosion isn't an issue. So they slap a bit of fancy paint on and make the car look beautiful but it's only skin deep !

You need a proper classic restorer who understands the issues with the older cars and can take the time to irradicate the corrosion.

My car was repainted by a Porsche approved bodyshop, it's already been back twice and now needs to go back a third time as the paint is bubbling again......and I'm losing the will to live.

If I could turn back the clock I would certainly go down the restorer route.
 
Joe, there is a chap called Lemass on the Rennlist 964 forum who is building a reputation as a good restorer when it comes to 964 bodywork. Near Uxbridge I believe.
 
All thanks for your replies. seems like a 'restorer' is my best option. guy tonight told me that he would use water past paint with a clear coat to spray my scuttle. i pointed out that it is cellulose paint and not 2-pack. he said thats ok, it wount matter. we went back and forth and he was convinced i could have some panels in cellulose and some in water based paint with a clear coat.

really?????

Dekker, i am not going back to the dealer, his paint shop were clearly doing a makeover. i don't want those charlies near my car again. it is so close to being perfect it just has to be done right.

Richard i feel for you. i want to do this once on my watch, not twice or thrice.

melv, yes they did remove the screen, or at least they said they did. they didn't remove the wing-to-scuttle rubbers which they should have done. they just masked up to them. hence i think they were bodgers.

see the rubbers that should have been removed and replaced and the paint bubbles... some folks have confidently said this isn't rust, rather it is a paint reaction...

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Trying to match old cellulose paint with modern 2 pack is really hard, and especially so with Gaurds red. Off the shelf will not work and the paint will have to be mixed after analysis...As I understand it, if you get a cloth & Tcut and test rub part of a panel and the cloth turns red then it is original. If it does not then you are cutting into laquer which is a modern system.
My experience of the 2pack guards red is a shade deeper and a preferable colour.
 
Yep -could be moisture..... next time, screen out, rubbers out (mine was rusting under the windscreen rubbers where the water collects....) and replace the wing to scuttle rubber, no point in leaving it!!
 

ORIGINAL: Melv
screen out, rubbers out and replace the wing to scuttle rubber, no point in leaving it!!
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There may have been a "cosmetic" repair of this area (which is rust prone on 964s and 993s) in the past and now the truth comes through. Or it´s the beginning of something you don´t want on your car. So, def. windscreen out and get rid of all the rust. A new screen rubber is necessary anyway then. I had this procedure done on my 993, it was the way to go.
 
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