Derek H said:
AndrewCS said:
Hi Derek,
Good feedback … out of interest what kind of driving are you doing in the cars ?
B roads - good and poor surfaces in all weathers` ? / How long do you spend behind the wheel - four hours non stop on B roads ? … etc
I ask for comparison with my own experiences of a CR manual and a 981 CS PDK …
I agree with you on the 981`s PSE, I ended up hardly using it … got to enjoy the more `linear` note without. In saying that, even without selection when backing off from high revs in 2nd and 3rd it would still `pop`.
Hi Andrew, most of my driving is country A & B roads - typically Cotswolds, some excursions into Wales, occasionally further afield. Fun/weekend car only, no commuting these days. Surface quality is pretty variable so I don't get to use PASM Sport setting much, though I recall a great weekend trip a few years ago in the 987 to North Wales on some great driving roads where I was able to keep PASM Sport on much of the time. My typical Sunday run duration is 1-2 hours and I don't tend to go out just for a drive if I know it's going to be wet, unless I'm going to a particular event or place. The longest run in the 981 was to Spa for the Classic last year and it's great for that sort of journey but we did the same event a couple of years before in the 987 and that was just as good. I'm keeping an eye on lockdown easing and the NW500 or a run down to the Italian lakes or similar could be on the cards once the quarantine restrictions are removed. I'd rather do that sort of longer trip in either of the Caymans than say a Lotus, purely from the luggage practicality point of view, which is why my sights were set on the Cayman R. But I'm a bit too hung up on my own "essential" spec list items such as full leather and bi-xenon headlights on top of the usual R "essentials" which has been the barrier to getting one up to now. It's possible I might keep the Cayman for longer trips and add a Lotus or Caterham for day trips and track days as early retirement is on the cards soon.
You're right about the PSE in the 981, definitely more linear when switched off but still a few pops at high revs. I had a modified Carnewal exhaust on my 987 and that was great most of the time as it less obnoxious due to the absence of the contrived pops and crackles of the PSE on the 981.
I also think that my lack of hands-on interaction with the 981 in terms of maintenance compared with the 987 is also part of the reason I'm not bonding with it. I did everything on my 987 but apart from a failed valve lift solenoid on the 981 which I DIY'd, I had my local OPC do the Minor last year to keep the Porsche service history going with a view to selling in the forseeable future. But my old 987 lives about 3 miles away and I'm looking forward to helping my friend with it's upcoming service!
Thank you Derek,
I drive in all weathers in much the same type of areas, my best memory so far has been the CS in the pouring rain - in the Highlands - on the Michelin PS4S tyres … outstanding feel, grip - performance !
I tend to run out for two to four hours, the longer the better as the cars` feel definitely improves over time. Especially the tyres, plus one`s confidence becomes more dialled in.
I`ll list the main differences between the CR and CS ...
- 981 better looking but does depend on the colour / wheel combination
- 981 interior more spacious, clear and modern
- 981 Sports Plus seat more comfortable than the CR Sports Plus seat (no buckets)
- 981 standard headlights far improved over the standard CR units !
- 981 far more comfortable on short and long trips
- 981 brakes have a better feel, discounting the CR`s initial `dead` travel aspect
- 981 PASM and 20" wheels a better combination for all conditions - CR feels it should be restricted to good surfaces only
- CR steering feel `goes light` after a few hours, geometry was set pp factory but with slightly more front negative camber
I put this down to the tyres (PS2`s) / tyre pressures and then ran them lower, slight improvement
- CR manual vs CS PDK … PDK enhances one`s ability to extend the car
- CR on track at Anglesey on Cup 2`s was superb, only let down by `the driver` !
The CR enjoys a hallowed `used` position - much better value retention … whilst I only ran it for a year and 9,000 miles I enjoyed the CS far, far more.
If you`re up for the NW500 or even the NW250, let me know …