Ebay find for someone - 924 Le Mans for restoration

[poprock]

Spotted this on eBay today"”the seller mis-spelled "˜Porsche', so it's not showing up in searches and therefore not getting many bids. Could be a real bargain for someone wanting to do a restoration.

924 Le Mans

 

[Fred Hindle]

2.5 litre engine, I assume it is '924S' as I don't think they did a LeMans apart from the 2.0 litre ones. Obviously someone will either confirm this or correct me.

Funny that there is a reserve on it, you would think he was glad to get rid of it, basically doesn't look as if it is worth restoring, maybe a donor for engine, gearbox etc.

Cheers.

 

[geoff Ives]

Sorry Fred.
It had to be me didn't it?

Attached is taken from Peter Morgans book 'Original Porsche 924/944/968'
This is definately the one to own. But not necessarily that one.
There were only 117 'Rest of the world' cars built. There were no white ones built for the US market.




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[Guest]

Not sure how legal it is to sell a vehicle you "find" in this way? (there is not a mention made of any legal steps taken to secure ownership)

What if it is an un-recovered stolen vehicle? Then it surely belongs to the insurance company - if there was a settlement with the owner ?
Or, if a new 'owner' applies for a V5C in the circumstances of abandonment, then DVLA would be obliged to contact the last registered owner and if he decided he wanted further money to relinquish title ....... what a potential can of worms.

Further to Geoff's comment.
They sold just 74 in the UK, 37 in Alpine White and 37 Black.

 

[Fred Hindle]

Geoff,
I thought you would know if anyone did. Didn't want to jump in with both feet (bit difficult for me anyway!)

It does look a mess though.

Cheers,

 

[geoff Ives]

Yes Fred as you say a mess.

The only use for that one is to use with a standard 'S' model and make a 'Genuine' Le Mans out of the 2. Not that I would advocate such practices of course[8|] and anyway it isn't economicaly viable.
Just imagine if it was a Carrera GT or a 911 2.7 RS.The vultures would be wheeling around in clouds.[]

 

[Alpine]

ORIGINAL: muddy

Not sure how legal it is to sell a vehicle you "find" in this way? (there is not a mention made of any legal steps taken to secure ownership)

What if it is an un-recovered stolen vehicle? Then it surely belongs to the insurance company - if there was a settlement with the owner ?
Or, if a new 'owner' applies for a V5C in the circumstances of abandonment, then DVLA would be obliged to contact the last registered owner and if he decided he wanted further money to relinquish title ....... what a potential can of worms.

I agree - he probably cannot pass good title over to the buyer. He says he has taken over premises and found the car in there. Maybe it belongs to the former tenant, or Landlord (someone must have put it in there....)

 

[Fred Hindle]

I have asked the seller via ebay about the legal owner and has he tried to find out who actually owns the car.

Will post reply on here if I get one.

Cheers,

 

[Northern924]

Mmm tricky one this, its a late Le Mans, and as such would be worth saving, but looking at the general state, it would need to be chaep to be economical, real shame this as there are very few later model Le Mans about these days, especially the white ones as it happens, seen a few black ones with teal coloured graphics, but very few white ones, hope this gets saved.
Real shame that the interior is shot, looks like the storage unit leaked A LOT, that looks like heavy water damage, although the engine looks OK, but its a 2.5 so who knows what damage has been done if the belt has snapped.

 

[Guest]

Police source has confirmed to me today that if you apply for a fresh V5C (as opposed to sending in the appropriate section from an existing V5C) in such circumstances, DVLA will contact previous registered keeper in order to check out the legitimacy of proposed change to a new 'owner'. And that could be where the fun starts.

Fred.
I know someone else who has tried contacting the seller both by phone and eBay messages. So far no replies ............................
And a bit odd that after nearly 9 days the seller has not put up a single question and answer at the bottom of the listing. He must have had quite a few in these unusual circumstances.

 

[darth510]

i messaged him last week to inform him it was a le mans 924,no reply/thankyou, imagine buying and restoring and then the original owner turns up-it's his car legally! i might buy a project and dump it in a warehouse for sale, see it sale on ebay, let someone spend a lot of time and money on it ,then turn up out of the blue,............ ????cheap restoration for me!!!

 

[Fred Hindle]

Nigel,
I've had no reply from the seller. I tend to work on the principal that if someone cant be bothered responding to questions then I tend to leave their item to someone else and try and find it elsewhere. Basic common courtesy.

I must admit that this wouldn't have been a restoration project (already got a Mk1 Golf Cab for that), would strip it of various bits and then scrap it so no problem with ownership, but it would be good to know the car was mine if I did buy it.

Cheers,

 

[Fred Hindle]

Finally got a reply from the seller.

Dear tarmacburner2,

[FONT=arial, verdana"]Hi I appreciate the query. I can confirm that when you buy the car, you will own the car. Hope this helps.

- pontvc

Doesn't say what he has done to check ownership. Good panels and nice wheels (I like D90 style). Could be tempted, will see what the bidding does later. Just noticed on the pictures, on a couple windscreen is intact, on another it looks as if it has been hit with a sledge hammer.

Cheers,

 

[darth510]

[ Just noticed on the pictures, on a couple windscreen is intact, on another it looks as if it has been hit with a sledge hammer.

Noticed that myself?? looks as if a 15 stone man has fell from the top floor flat into it

 

[AlexG]

If you look closely the windscreen is shot in all of the pictures, one of them just has a favourable shadow I think.