Pentrefoelas to Denbigh, turn right pass Llyn Brenig to Cerrigydrudion than back along A5 or in reverse, there are many other great roads in this area also, but this has a mainly good surface, is quite wide, in part its high up moors with views to Snowdon and north coast, forest lined sections, it is much used! pricey cars and bikes on show, but some plonkers on bikes and cars who think they are Rossi or Hamilton! unmarked and marked Law enforcement bikes and cars, stray sheep, tractors and low flying very noisy fast jets, if your lucky! places to sit and watch and the Welsh Water café lakeside at LLyn Brenig is very nice, great views as well, but best of all you are only a stones throw from Llandudno for somewhere nice to stay!