ex tiff 944 for sale

[944Turbo]

Just spotted this coming up for auction soon
https://www.silverstoneau...0609-1-silverston-0721

Tony

 

[blade7]

Is it just a turbo S with a roll cage?

 

[Eldavo]

Is it just a turbo S with a roll cage?

Looks that way. Was SilberRosa, now GP white, engine bay looks a different colour (slate grey?). Will be interesting to see what it makes value-wise as I don‘t really see it being all that as a car.

 

[944Turbo]

Engine bay looks silberrosa on my screen!

Tony

 

[DavidL]

To be fair to them it does say
"Originally finished in Silver Rose (LM3Z ) and raced in that rare hue but now resplendent in Grand Prix White with instantly recognisable period race livery
so yes it's a silver rose car, I'm a bit surprised they didn't strip more of the interior out to race it mind.

 

[Eldavo]

Didn’t sell - anyone see what the bidding got to?

 

[dlknight]

Not sure if anyone noticed but that looks like an old auction?

Top of the page states 2021

 

[blade7]

Assuming it's all in good condition, I'd see it between £30-40k. I'd change it back to Silver Rose paint if someone gave it to me. The fact Needles punted a fairly standard turbo S around some tracks is worth not much extra IMO.

 

[PSH]

Something doesn't add up with this...the car that Tiff raced wasn't silver rose, or at least it easn't in photo's taken at the time. Plus I alway's tbought that Tiff raced a Turbo cup car? I stand to be corrected if I have tbis wrong?

Pete

 

[PSH]

Bmm...not sure wbat happened to the picture?.. it shows Tiff and another driver with their race cars in 1988.

 

[PSH]

Try again

 

[Eldavo]

The more I unravel this the more I’m very suspicious - although it’s all academic as DLKnight points out the auction is from a couple of years ago.

The auction house in particular have a bit of a rep for twisting the truth.

I think we have 2 cars here:

Firstly, the Silver Rose Turbo S that Tiff test drove for a magazine article.
Secondly, the #44 Turbo Cup race car as driven in period by Tiff and Dickie.

Then the first car has been resprayed to look like car #44 and is being passed off as it, despite the fact that the actual #44 turbo cup race car is still out there somewhere.

 

[blade7]

Yeah, the listing does seem moody.

 

[dlknight]

The more I unravel this the more I’m very suspicious - although it’s all academic as DLKnight points out the auction is from a couple of years ago.

The auction house in particular have a bit of a rep for twisting the truth.

I think we have 2 cars here:

Firstly, the Silver Rose Turbo S that Tiff test drove for a magazine article.
Secondly, the #44 Turbo Cup race car as driven in period by Tiff and Dickie.

Then the first car has been resprayed to look like car #44 and is being passed off as it, despite the fact that the actual #44 turbo cup race car is still out there somewhere.

Yes I think you are right Dave - I couldn't work out why there was an old photo of it in race livery supposedly as a cup car but that it had a road car interior (silver rose). As you say it looks like someone has made the car look like the original cup race car in the photo.

I wonder if that is why it shows as "Not sold", perhaps somebody figured it out and called out the seller at the time for passing off a fake...

EDIT: just popped the registration into the MOT database and it hasn't had an MOT since records went digital

 

[944Turbo]

It does say "live auction Saturday 31st July" but I hadn't realised that 31st is a Monday this year. Tiff did tweet about it https://twitter.com/tiff_tv/status/1405993907104661505 back in 21 but not sure how close he looked at the advert!
Tony