Extended Service Intervals

[Guest]

Now that new model year Porsches have 2 year 20,000 mile service intervals, and use the "LONG LIVE" oils , who is really been kidded when the cost of the oil is almost double, would you want to leave the oil in for that long! or is it better/cheaper to use Mobile 1 and change every year/10,000 , along with a filter.

My new Golf had a nice bag with a 1 litre top up bottle in the boot, which ive now used and nearly fell over when i when to buy a replacement ,£12.99 a litre in Halfords.

Tony

 

[Mark_Bennett]

The cost of the oil is nearly double???

What are they using? I thought it was Mobil 1?

 

[Guest]

Volkswagen use Castrol SLX Longlife 2 0W-30

Will Mobil 1 last 20,000 miles???

Tony

 

[daro911]

ORIGINAL: Mark Bennett

The cost of the oil is nearly double???

What are they using? I thought it was Mobil 1?

Unless Tony knows different they are using Mobil 1 still and there are literally dozens of cars out there now that only have to be serviced every 20K Miles or 2 years and they definitely use regular run of the mill oils.

I read many years ago in an engineering journal that synthetic oils were good for 100K Miles between changes BUT it was the oil filter that wasn't!

 

[Guest]

It is my understanding that the extended length car services are being done to reduce the cost of servicing for the car leasing industry which has no interest whatsoever in what happens after about 80,000 miles as they are no longer the owners. I would always have my oil chnaged every 12,000 miles or so at the maximum

 

[daro911]

ORIGINAL: Cary Blackburn

It is my understanding that the extended length car services are being done to reduce the cost of servicing for the car leasing industry

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Cary my understanding of the car leasing industry is that they take into account many cost factors ie servicing costs, future residuals, mileage p.a., wear & tear etc and from that they calculate a rental premium.

So if a car needed servicing twice a year like Jeeps do as an example it is the same deal for all leasing companies and therefore paid for by the customer accordingly in there rental premium.

I can't see Porsche extending there service intervals purely in the interest of leasing companies being able to lower the monthly charges to there customers and have they actually lowered the charges between say MY03 & MY04.

Modern cars are very much maintenance free these days and fully synthetic oils are good for up to 100,000 miles between changes. So servicing every 2 years or 20K miles is very much the industry standard across the board and a few hundred pounds saved on the annual service not being done will hardly affect the monthly premiums being paid by the customer over a 3/4 year lease agreement.

 

[Guest]

I agree daro911 that Porsche are not competing in the leasing car market with the Boxster but they do not operate in a vacuum and, particularly with the boxster they are competing for sales against manufacturers who do sell models in the fleet and leasing market ie Merc/Honda/BMW.

The drive for extended service intervals has come about due to fierce competition selling into the leasing and fleet markets where £200 saved per year on servicing on a fleet of say 5,000 cars is a lot of money. This has therefore cascading up into the higher value and more prestige cars as manufacturers have felt they had to do offer it across their ranges. This in turn then puts pressure on the likes of Porsche to offer the same with the Boxster.

I do not know whether 20,000 miles between oil changes on a Boxster is OK. Presumably we should trust Porsche to have done the necessary development work to ensure that no problems occur with the engine in years to come in the same way that they did with the Rear Main Oil Seals! . In the meantime I will continue to change the oil every year.

 

[Mark_Bennett]

In the meantime I will continue to change the oil every year

And the filter I hope!

 

[cFirth]

Hi guys,

I am not sure about the 20k Mile or two year servicing or where this idea comes from, although I have seen a similar claim in another post.

I have a 04MY Boxster and have just checked my service book, which also BTW covers the 996 range. I must admit that I was confused by the page title at first hence my double-checking. In my book it is 20,000km/12,000 Mile or "2 years at the latest" for the minor maintenance and 40k km/ 24k Mile or 4 years for the Major Maintenance.

There are the usual caveats regarding usage and that tyres, fluids, brake and clutch parts may need replacing before the service intervals.

Apart from oil and replacing the particle filter element all you get for a very expensive service is a coat of looking at. So I think the message from Porsche is that unless you are the fabled Boxster owning hairdresser you must do your own regular maintenance and accept a biannual rip off to keep the warranty alive.