F1 - Porsche nowhere to be seen SPOILER

[944s2]

Err did the PDK not come out of Le Mans program many years ago

 

[bobfair]

I thought the BBC did a great job and I enjoyed this years coverage of F1. What a pity Porsche was nowhere to be seen as a result of their policy of not racing in their own right but only supporting their racing customers.

Now that Porsche is part of VW what are the chance of Porsche returning to F1 in some capacity. Perhaps Porsche would have developed a decent double clutch gearbox far earlier if they had been racing

 

[poprock]

It certainly did. Twenty years ago, at least.

 

[Nick_USA]

I always thought Brawn was this ....

 

[carreraboy]

Mark timing of this post OK?[]

 

[spyderman]

Now that Porsche is part of VW what are the chance of Porsche returning to F1 in some capacity.

Do Porsche have any experience of the sort of [link=http://www.f1technical.net/articles/4]small-capacity, high-revving V engines[/link] that all F1 cars uses these days? Can't see them being at all interested unless its the sort of engine that would also find its way into their road cars - and they still seem very much devoted to the flat six.

 

[Brian RS]

Thought there was a long standing request that sporting results were not put in the heading of a posting. So well done bobfair for spoiling the viewing of those who had recorded the race. An apology now is no good!

 

[Mark_Bennett]

[link=http://www.porscheclubgbforum.com/tm.asp?m=189512]http://www.porscheclubgbforum.com/tm.asp?m=189512[/link]

 

[carreraboy]

Mark is this Official Forum Rules?

 

[bobfair]

My apologies Gentlemen once again I am in breach of the rules. Earlier in the year I commited the sin of electioneering in supporting our 997 represnttitives and now I have blubbed the result of an F1 race when there was obvioulsy a media blackout on that subject. However it did seem a reasonable question to ask about VW's involvement given that Ferrai, Mercedes, BMW, Toyota and Renault have alll taken part in F1 this year and Porsche dont even run their own cars at Le Mans. Could Porsche perhaps use their influence to get the BBC to cover the Supercup race that goes with many of the F1 events. Mark I was blissfully unaware of the restriction which is not in the forum rules. Perhaps it could be added so it would be picked up by regular sinners like me

 

[Mark_Bennett]

No it's not in the rules - it's just a bit of politeness. (Not aimed at you in particular Bob! []) Results are fine, just not in titles, and not using misleading titles that people click thinking they are going to read something else. I know of many people over the years who have had results "spoiled" by either misleading post titles (I remember one that said something like "When will Porsche...?" which when clicked on continued "When will Porsche win another championship? Congratulations to Richard Burns for winning the World Rally Chamionship today" (which wiped out a seasons worth of build up and tension!) - Or just plain "Congratulations XYZ for winning So and So race", which can be annoying if you've not seen it yet.... Sometimes people such as Club Officials don't really have the option "not to look" as they have been out at events in the day - sometimes they have to log in to do someting when they get back - I know I''ve had to. Moderators and Admins have no real choice - they are obligated to look in regularly. Do we have to have a rule for that? It's just being polite. It's very common on web forums - where results would not be expected (it's kind of expected to see results on Autosport.com!) I'm not Admin anymore - so no good asking me to change something, or enforce it. I just don't look in anymore if I haven't watched something. Not everyone is so lucky.

 

[garyw]

ORIGINAL: Mark Bennett Moderators and Admins have no real choice - they are obligated to look in regularly.

And update their signatures []

 

[pauljmcnulty]

I can't imagine needing a rule about this? Surely it's just courteousy and common sense not to post any sort of spoiler without saying so in the title? There does seem to be a degree of "creep" here, though. Rarely do the news channels, at least on radio (that's all I know about lol), say "if you don't want to know the result put your fingers in your ears now" any more.

 

[Lancerlot]

Can't imagine what all the fuss is about. [&:] Surely, there's nobody in land that hasn't heard the result by some means or another -even if they hadn't intended to! [] We need to lighten up! [8|] Regards, Clive

 

[bobfair]

Strangely enough I wasnt try to spoil anything or be discouteous to anyone and it didnt occur to me that so many hours after such a major event this post would cause so much controversy. Your addition of SPOILER to the Title is very wide of the mark " sorry, it was me- garyw "This result had been on every TV and Radio news so my post was hardly a news scoop. I was trying to say that I enjoyed the BBC coverage of F1 and hoping to spark a debate about whether we could get Superup coverage and get Porsche involved in F1 now that it was part of VW. A great pity that our forum members are so sensitive and that our editorial team make whatever changes they like without any reference to the author so we end up debating the wrong thing

 

[garyw]

Bob, my apologies, it was me that added the spoiler comment, something I have seen done on many forums if news of information is in a thread that reveals a motorsport result.. I was hoping to keep both parties happy with a simple adjustment to the lead title. [] I can see fully the main thrust of the post and how it has gone a little off topic and resulted in where we are at this point. I also agree that you really do need to be in a far off land not to know the results of the F1 especially on a car orientated forum.... Even with this, I will say that this is probably the very last forum to announce the news with many others celebrating the news in bold lettering, it does tend ot be a bit serious here sometimes!! - not usually in the 997 area though ?? [] However lets get it back to topic if we can... garyw

 

[Bertroex]

After the TAG debacle, Porsche vowed never to return to Formula 1. Considering that VW's Dr Piech is Ferry's very ambitous, incredibly focussed and result driven cousin who headed Porsche's motorsport department up until 1973, I think the godfather has an idea in the pipeline for the family firm..... Bert

 

[Mark_Bennett]

They were very successful with TAG Mclaren - World Champions in fact. It was the Footwork that was the disaster..

 

[bobfair]

Clearly this post did not go the way I intended so apologies to all there was no intention on my part to be contreversial or upset anyone but clearly it did. I think we can expect some changes with Porsche under VW and I think Porsches involvement with top level motorsport is a valid topic for debate on this forum. I think the BBC coverage of F1 has been great but I would like to see them show some Supercup which accompanies many of the F1 races. I feel doubly confident in ordering PCCB on my next car as those brakes get some pretty tough treatment in the Supercup series. As for F1 itself if Renault and Toyata can be involved I dont see why Porsche can not be and I would like to see a factory backed car (not customer owned) run at Le Mans

 

[Mark_Bennett]

Bob, I don't think you need worry. You've apologised enough [] Incidentally, the Supercup and GP2 were all shown by Eurosport (and have been for several years). It will probably be the same next year as well.