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First post on the 997 Mk1 Tip Turbo Cab

997lockwood

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Firstly, I’m delighted with a long awaited purchase of a rather unique 997 Mk1 Turbo Cab Tip in Macadamia with a tan interior with an array of Porsche Exclusive options, which was made on the 23rd of December '14, unseen, which was a risk but worth it, given only 7 short years ago someone expended nearer £140K on this unique expression of a Mk1 Turbo.

The Turbo was registered in ’08 with 2 owners covering 14.1K miles.

The first major trip was to Le Mans with the Porsche club GB, which having been for the last 14 years, opened my eyes to the subtle benefits of Porsche ownership, which was deeply impressive.

Four months in, I’d appreciate the club members’ views on the following:

1) Porsche warranty
Given a replacement engine is £30-40K, I took the view that purchasing the 2 year warranty was a "must”, the outcome was a £2.3K charge to replace the front rads (more on that later), replacement battery as this was a non-Porsche product, new horn, new bulbs in the rear view mirror, with a further £2.2K for the warranty, therefore a £4.5K new charge in the first month of ownership "ouch”!!!.

Having read general forums ala Pistonheads, there appears to be instances of Porsche refusing to honour warranty claims IF the cars ECU indicates over revs.

What advice would the forum provide to ensure the car can a) be enjoyed without b) invalidating the warranty.

Given this is a Tiptronic and essentially an automatic, does this mean that the engine management system prevents the driver from "over revving” as the freedom is clearly restricted over a manual option.

Please note this car will never be sold and will only be covering 2.5K miles a year maximum,


2) Long terms ownership tips

The car will only be used in summer months and garaged for the winter season, with the 997 being only used when the engine is up to temperature.

I note on some forums, some drivers suggest running the engine for a time before switch off, is this recommended?

3) Exhaust options

The 997 Mk1 enjoys the wonderful Metzinger "rattle”, but appears to be "quiet” when driving, are there any exhaust options that could be considered without invalidating the OPC warranty?

It’s a game-changing car, however, as stated it’s a bit "quiet”.


4) Rad covers
The most expensive cost incurred when procuring the warranty required the replacement of two front rads at £800, on researching other owners experiences it appears that a "design flaw” exists in that the 997 front bumper in that it is completely exposed, therefore if a stone pierces the rad you are going to be in for further expense.

The following company advertises a mesh cover:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3_sXA7zyBk

The question is whether the forum would recommend this option or just to keep "as is”, personally, I love the exposed look as it has cleaner lines, however, having viewed the 997 GT cars at Le Mans without exception they all had a mesh cover.

5) Sport mode
When in sport mode the gear change from 2 to 3rd and 3rd to 4th under acceleration is "lumpy” and not smooth and has a noticeable jolt when changing gear, is this normal or indicative of an "issue”?

6) Tiptronic tips

Are there any tips that the forum would proffer to improve the Tip driving experience?

7) Launch control

Does the 997 Turbo Mk1 have "launch control”, if so what is the correct procedure to use?

8) Ceramic break – replacement cost

The ceramic option is present and delivers "staggering braking performance”, can the forum advise on the indicative factors that should be looked for when the brakes are end of life alongside the associated costs to replace that should be expected?

Summary
I've waited 15 years for a Turbo and as Clarkson remarked "its a capsule of speed" that "truly bends the laws of physics", this is a keeper and I'd appreciate any insights to improve the experience, whilst taking the utmost care of this unique expression of a 997 Turbo Mk1.

 
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Firstly what a beautiful combination of colours. You were right to take the chance.

Secondly I'm a novice to 911's myself but your point 2) refers to turbo engine cars allowing the oil to cool after a lengthy run. This endemic in the Japanese cars such as Skyline's & Evo's where modified ECU's & boost settings are the norm to the point that turbo timers were fitted which had the engine run on, even after ignition was switched off and the car locked, to keep the oil pumping whilst the car cooled down. I'm not sure if this is the case with Porsche, but being cautious to prevent premature wear for the sake of 30 seconds to a minute? This will be a habit that I keep up for my car.
 
Hi Mathew,

Welcome to 997 ownership. I hope you will enjoy driving your new car for many happy miles to come. [:)]

In answer to your enquiries:-
If you do not fit genuine Porsche parts including exhaust, you risk invalidating your extended warranty.

You can search the technical section of the 997 Register forum for details of fitting mesh to the PU air intakes. Again, check with your PC about warranty - some take a different view on this to others. Rads also suffer from corrosion due to build up of debris in inaccessible corners, so it is a good idea to remove the PU periodically to clear this and treat the rads with anti-corrosion fluid. Again, this is covered in the forum's Tech. Section.

Tiptronic transmission with 5 speeds is not as slick as PDK with 7 and leaves a hole in the ratios. This is probably what you are experiencing, but if you're worried take it along to you PC and ask them to check. Often a simple change of transmission fluid works wonders to a flagging system.

My tip for PCCB's (carbon brakes) is to change the pads when they are showing 50-60% wear and certainly long before the pad-wear warning light comes on. At 15k mileage, the rotors should be fine and showing no appreciable wear (unless they have been abused). They should be good for 100k at least, but scored or damaged rotors will be expensive to replace (around £3½K per corner) - so keep an eye on those pads! [8|]

Modern, sophisticated lubrication systems mean it is no longer necessary to idle the motor at tick-over to equalise the oil pressure in engine and turbos, but it will certainly do no harm and most of us will let the engine run at idle for a short period after a spirited run to avoid localised heat soak.

Regards,

Clive.


 
An exquisite example Matthew. I also bought mine unseen but from an OPC. At 11k miles at 8 years old I thought i'd take the risk (though I could have had my deposit returned if the car was not as described when I went to collect it, so little risk really).

I really enjoy the car and whilst it's been superceded twice or thrice depending on how you count it, it has plenty of what I was personally looking for over a newer generation non-turbo model of a similar budget.

Will be interesting to see now how (or if) these cars develop from a desirability and collectability perspective, even though like yourself I have no plans to ever sell it. You have a very good example in that regard. But as a model produced without restricted numbers, such a driveable car that many have high mileage and such a strong engine tolerant of extreme modification (no offence to anyone who has tastefully modified their car, extreme or otherwise), there'll be many examples that are perhaps not so collectable. But I expect over time these will less flood the market and pristine original examples as a quite a small proportion out of the numbers built will be very desirable, especially one like yours.

But most importantly, enjoy driving your car[:)]

Hoping your thread generates more discussion about this model, but it may be 5 years too early to get many wanting to talk about collectability.
 

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