Fitting Rear Seatbelts to my 1984 911 Coupe

[Keiron]

Hi All,

A newbie to the forum and to PCGB (just hit 'submit' button last night on my membership application []).

Also a newbie to Porsche ownership, having lived overseas for the past 10 years, it just wasn't an option, but on my return to UK last year, well it was time to stop talking about it and time get on with it.

Sooo... I've got a lot of questions & will probably need a lot of help []

My question is about rear seatbelts - I don't have them but was considering fitting them (Not required by law.... however.....) since I might on occasion take the kids out and have them in the back of the car (fortunately they're still small).

The car is a coupe by the way.

Has anyone done this before and if so how difficult/easy was it?? It looks like the mounting points are already there on the car.

Not sure if this is something I should attempt myself or get company to do it for me.

I've sourced rear static 3 point seatbelts online (for £45 each).

Can you only fit static belts?

Any help would be appreciated.

 

[GeoffB]

Kieron
Not sure if points are in for 3 belt my old sc only had lap bells in rear
Go over to impactbumpers.com a lot of knowledge over there and you may pick up a set of belts as a lot of the guys have deleted the rear seats
In addition one if the guys deals in parts ( including new old stock) so you may well get some help

 

[Keiron]

Thanks Geoff,

I've had a general look at IB, but not specifically on this, I'll go and do a search. I was actually trying to register on the forum but it wouldn't let me for some reason. But I can still take a look.

You might be right, there looks like there's definetly 2 points already visible on the trim where a lap belt would go but I don't think it's so obvious for the shoulder fixing point - it might be under the trim? I'm not at home so can't go and have a look to see.

One of my other questions was about sourcing parts, so I'll see if I can find the guy you're talking about. I could do with picking up a couple of bits and pieces to tidy up some slight cosmetic issues (nothing major).

 

[Beaky]

Hi Kieron,
My 1986 Carrera coupe only has lap belts in the rear, don't think I have come across 3 points belts in the back but I could be wrong.

I also believe that you should be able to locate the anchors points for the lap belts in your car, these being build in from the factory.

 

[chrishak]

ORIGINAL: Beaky

Hi Kieron,
My 1986 Carrera coupe only has lap belts in the rear, don't think I have come across 3 points belts in the back but I could be wrong.

I also believe that you should be able to locate the anchors points for the lap belts in your car, these being build in from the factory.

Definitely got three-point belts in the back of my '88 Carrera

 

[supersport]

The mounting points for 3 point are there they just fitted lap belts early on.

I had mine done by quickfit-SBS in London, did a brilliant job for about £230. Even used the old buckles from the lap belts to make it look original. They have do e loads of 911s and classic cars.

 

[Keiron]

From what I've read I think the rear 3 point belts went in in '87 with lap belts before that ('85 I think).

I had a look through the Impact Bumpers posts, a few topics there but not much info (that I could find anyway), but I found this post on Pelican Parts which has more info and pics (always useful).

plea for help - 86 to 89 Rear Seat Belt Upper Bolt Location

One of the comments on the thread was that for '84 coupe's the bolt hole for the shoulder point should be preinstalled because this was a requirement in Switzerland at the time so Porsche just did all the cars the same. So in theory, it may be under the trim. I'll need to check this out in a couple of weeks when I get home.

If anyone has a picture of their rear belts, especially the shoulder point and how this is attached or how it comes out of the trim (through a guide) that would be useful.

Whilst searching for photos of rear belts on google I came across this webpage of a guy who did what I want to do in his '86 coupe which is starting to help me build up the picture of what I need to do.

911 Rear Shoulder Seat Belt Conversion

One question then, the inertia reel which will sit above your shoulder (and tie into the parcel shelf somewhere) which feeds the webbing out, is this hidden under the parcel shelf trim and is fed out through a guide located in the parcel shelf or is it in plain sight bolted through the trim??

As far as quickfit-SBS goes, I'd love to just take my car there and save all the hassle but its a bit of a treck from Aberdeen[], however, I was planning on going to Goodwood in June for the Festival of Speed, so you never know.

 

[supersport]

The reel goes under the parcel shelf and is hidden.

I am not sure about the covers for the holes to allow the belt to come through, I was under the impression that you can't get these from Porsche. Quick fit made their own I think.

Aberdeen is quite a trek just for belts. Yorkshire was bad enough, but I combined it with a trip taking my son to the natural history museum. Tedious drive home though.

 

[supersport]

Actually thinking about it, why not five Quick fit a ring, they just give you advice or sell you a complete kit. They were very helpful when I spoke to them.

 

[paul kelley]

Hi All

Quikfit did a fabulous job on the Clubs 356. Telephone for a quote and a booking as it may not take as long as you may think.

Have fun

Paul Kelley

 

[Keiron]

ORIGINAL: supersport

The reel goes under the parcel shelf and is hidden.

I am not sure about the covers for the holes to allow the belt to come through, I was under the impression that you can't get these from Porsche. Quick fit made their own I think.

Aberdeen is quite a trek just for belts. Yorkshire was bad enough, but I combined it with a trip taking my son to the natural history museum. Tedious drive home though.

I took a look at the Porsche parts catalogue and it shows this diagram (see end of post).

So in the diagram it looks like the inertia reel is down by your lap, which just looks wrong... Everything else I've seen is like you said, under the trim over your shoulder.

Anyway I think the options I have is to either source another parcel shelf from an '87 which should have the holes in the trim, or I cut and buy a stock piece of plastic trim from a donor vehicle which would match the job. Might try the parcel shelf route first...

I like the idea of buying a kit to install that would make life easier, I'll drop them an email to find out about it.

Cheers

 

[supersport]

My car is an 87 and had lap belts when I got it. There were no holes in it, there may have been press outs under the covering but nothing visible from the outside. The reel is definitely not visible.

Will just pop out and take a pic.

Here we go:

 

[Keiron]

Cheers Mark,

Much appreciated. It looks like the plastic fixing that the webbing goes through has a split to allow the seatbelt webbing to be slotted through and it must fix closed once it's mounted in the trim.

Quickfit did you installation, so I assume they drilled the holes for the seatbelt mounting points and cut the holes in your rear parcel shelf & fixed the plastic guides in place.

They did a tip top job there, very professional. Wish I was closer so I could just get them to do it for me [].

Perfect, now know what I need to achieve. I emailed the quickfit guys to see if they have a kit as suggested so I'll see what they come back with. [].