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Can anyone help me! what is the easiest way to fix a new bonnet badge on? I am having probs working out how to get the old studs out, without destroying the car!!

many thanks in advance

Mark Williams

(2 x 1980 924 Le Mans!)
 
This may(will) sound like a bodge.
To fit the new badge simply stick it on. Stick the rubber backing onto the badge with super glue then having carefully coated the rubber again with super glue press into place. Forget nuts or clips.
I have used this method with all of my Porsches and other for friends.
 
ORIGINAL: williams924

Can anyone help me! what is the easiest way to fix a new bonnet badge on? I am having probs working out how to get the old studs out, without destroying the car!!

many thanks in advance

Mark Williams

(2 x 1980 924 Le Mans!)
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Hi, I believe we have met. Are you the gentleman whos had a ride in my 924 turbo?
Anyway, on 924s of that vintage, the badge is usually secured by two speed nuts under the badge panel, and they are an absolute B on the N/A cars without the turbo vents. Look from underneath, I think there is a way through, but " 'ers akkerd" Refixing: Make four cuts about 10mm long outward from the hole, top bottom, left & right. Once you have the old studs out measure the size of the hole. The plugs that come with the new badge kit are so tight that unless you can support the panel from below, there is a real risk of denting the panel as you push the badge home, so with that in mind you can use them, or take the badge to your local model shop and purchase some polystyrene tube, of the correct interal diameter to be a good fit on the pins, and slightly wider than the diameter of the panel hole. Drill the hole to suit, and heat up a screwdriver blade to melt a small flange on the two peices of tube you have cut to length. Super glue them into the holes. I think you can take it from there. This gives you an element or removability. My turbo's badge is attached in this manner. Hope this helps
 
Mark,
Cars of this age don't have securing nuts of any description. Plus the fact that the badge panel itself is welded onto the car, later cars these panels were secured on with screws. So you cant get to the underneath of the panel. The badge has two pins that are set slightly pointing in towards each other, this allows the badge to stay flat against the panel (with the rubber in between). By all means use Geoff's method of securing the badge and rubber together with superglue but just press it into position on the panel.
My 944 (1984) uses pins rather than securing nuts.
To remove, gently pry the badge up with a flat bladed screwdriver. This is the English 'gently pry' not the Haynes Manual meaning of the term - Haynes: Pry...
Translation: Hammer a screwdriver into...

Cheers,

Fred
 
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Mark,
Cars of this age don't have securing nuts of any description. Plus the fact that the badge panel itself is welded onto the car, later cars these panels were secured on with screws. So you cant get to the underneath of the panel. The badge has two pins that are set slightly pointing in towards each other, this allows the badge to stay flat against the panel (with the rubber in between). By all means use Geoff's method of securing the badge and rubber together with superglue but just press it into position on the panel.
My 944 (1984) uses pins rather than securing nuts.
To remove, gently pry the badge up with a flat bladed screwdriver. This is the English 'gently pry' not the Haynes Manual meaning of the term - Haynes: Pry...
Translation: Hammer a screwdriver into...

Cheers,

Fred
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Speaking from the experience of my similarly aged 924 turbo, (1981) the badge panel is indeed secured with speed nuts, as is the badge on my 1978 924. The speed nuts screwed on to the pins, which on later models, say 1983 onwards (as I know that from experience too,) were pushed into a tight fitting nylon tube. That is not to say that the badge has not been replaced, and all new badge kits come with the nylon tube anyway. Check underneath, like I said, because if your pins are held by nuts you will never pry them out. Fred is most likely correct in what he believes, as the 944 is not old enough to have had the early fixing method used to secure the badge.
 
John,
My 1984 944 - panel welded on, my 1986 924S - panel screwed on. I assumed that Porsche had modified the fixing in between these dates, I didn't realise that they had changed it before 1984 and then changed it back again after 1984. Apologies if I have misled anyone.

Cheers,
 
Fred you have no need to apologise, and I don't want to seem like a smart alec. I can draw on 19 years of early 924 experience. I bought my first in 1988, at 68,000 miles. I think the head gasket was on its way out, but not gone. A leaking water pump and christmas traffic queues in Slough finished it off I did a full rebuild, guides and all at 110,000 and continued to use it as my daily driver until 2003 when although still going strong, with 247,000 miles one the monocoque and a further 137,000 miles on the engine, on a whim I bought a 79 model in better condition and made 1 good one out of the two. I have done so many jobs in the way of maintenance and after fair wear and tear, that the list is almost endless here are some key examples
  1. head gasket, lux and t urbo
  2. replace tranmission, lux and turbo
  3. replace cv joints
  4. replace shocks, lux and turbo
  5. re condition calipers
  6. rebuild engine
  7. replace stolen badge(s)
  8. replace driver window lift mechanism
  9. fit 6 cd autochanger
  10. multiple brake pad changes
  11. mulitple brake shoe changes
  12. bottom bal joints
  13. etc.
Any help on this forum should always be welcomed, and naturally enquirers should, in every case, proceed with caution, and check out the information to see if it is relevant in their particular set of circumstances.
 
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