front brake cooling duct kits
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Hacki
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I don´t know of any kit ready to install. Had mine done by Konrad Motorsport, they used the hoses, which are designed for motorsport purposes. (Those ones you see when prototypes are shown without bodywork) It´s not so easy to make sure the air really arrives in the center of the discs.
Anyone specialised in serious car racing and running a team / shop will be able to manufacture a kit.
Rgds
Hacki
Anyone specialised in serious car racing and running a team / shop will be able to manufacture a kit.
Rgds
Hacki
Pocket money:
http://shop.fvd.de/de/en/Porsche-0/964-11/coupe/-/item/item_details/VID_6186262-VCD_11001449-gid_200-sort_3-display_5-item_FVD100110/BODY-Tuning-FrontSpoiler-FVD100110-air-inlet-set-964-965-89-94.html
Big budget:
http://shop.fvd.de/de/en/Porsche-0/964-11/coupe/-/item/item_details/VID_6186262-VCD_11001449-gid_200-sort_3-display_5-item_FVD100180/BODY-Tuning-FrontSpoiler-FVD100180-964-965-Brake-Air-Inlets-%28Without-Foglights%29.html
GDP of small country:
http://shop.fvd.de/de/en/Porsche-0/964-11/-/-/item/item_details/VID_6184328-VCD_86112540-gid_203-sort_3-display_5-item_280100182/ELECTRICALEQUIPMENT-Headlighs-Lighting-Headlights-280100182-brake-air-inlets-with-foglights-964-965.html
Hope this helps John. [
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http://shop.fvd.de/de/en/Porsche-0/964-11/coupe/-/item/item_details/VID_6186262-VCD_11001449-gid_200-sort_3-display_5-item_FVD100110/BODY-Tuning-FrontSpoiler-FVD100110-air-inlet-set-964-965-89-94.html
Big budget:
http://shop.fvd.de/de/en/Porsche-0/964-11/coupe/-/item/item_details/VID_6186262-VCD_11001449-gid_200-sort_3-display_5-item_FVD100180/BODY-Tuning-FrontSpoiler-FVD100180-964-965-Brake-Air-Inlets-%28Without-Foglights%29.html
GDP of small country:
http://shop.fvd.de/de/en/Porsche-0/964-11/-/-/item/item_details/VID_6184328-VCD_86112540-gid_203-sort_3-display_5-item_280100182/ELECTRICALEQUIPMENT-Headlighs-Lighting-Headlights-280100182-brake-air-inlets-with-foglights-964-965.html
Hope this helps John. [
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PhilRS
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John, no point at all unless you make sure that the cool air is directed well on the brake disk (so this requires the hoses and a plate close to the brake disk to attach said hose).
In Paul's useful posting, Option one 1 is for show. Option 2 is the real deal. Option 3 is unnecessary.
Forgot to add that Techart sold these kits (with and without fog lights).
In Paul's useful posting, Option one 1 is for show. Option 2 is the real deal. Option 3 is unnecessary.
Forgot to add that Techart sold these kits (with and without fog lights).
To be honest, all three of the FVD kits are a bit useless. The ducts, as in option 1, do nothing to cool the brakes on their own. Option 2 is also not that great as the hose ends at the front of the wheel-arch liner and the air is merely guided towards the brake disc by the scoop which is cable tied onto the A-arm, so when you have some steering lock on you are actually blowing air at the tyre on one side, not the disc ! I actually have this set up on my car (fitted by a previous owner) and I'm not convinced it really does anything worthwhile at all. For it to work properly you need the hose to get right to the back and centre of the disc, ideally with a blanking plate to channel the air directly. Option 3 is essentially the same as Option 2 but with pointless foglights and a smaller inlet apperture - waste of money !
The problem on our cars is that there is not much space in the wheel wells so it is difficult to keep the ducting out of the way so that the wheels don't foul the hoses going from lock to lock. I have seen much better kits for the early cars with proper blanking plates.
At best these kits merely increase the cool airflow into the wheel well and guide it vaguely towards the disc, but as far as I'm concerned they do little more than that. They are expensive enough to buy and very expensive to install - save your money ! If it's increased braking capacity and less wear and tear you are looking for then you would be better spending the money on Big Reds and bigger discs...............
YMMV !
Jamie
The problem on our cars is that there is not much space in the wheel wells so it is difficult to keep the ducting out of the way so that the wheels don't foul the hoses going from lock to lock. I have seen much better kits for the early cars with proper blanking plates.
At best these kits merely increase the cool airflow into the wheel well and guide it vaguely towards the disc, but as far as I'm concerned they do little more than that. They are expensive enough to buy and very expensive to install - save your money ! If it's increased braking capacity and less wear and tear you are looking for then you would be better spending the money on Big Reds and bigger discs...............
YMMV !
Jamie
Hacki
Active member
Correct, that´s why I had it done by a race team. They put in hoses long enough to direct the air right into the centre of the discs. And, the hoses have to be formed to make sure you have wheels free from lock to lock. It´s a tricky work to do it correctly, but then it helps.
Big reds - that´s a different story. When I ruined the original calipers in Clubsport I then did both. Vent the brakes and put in big reds (the big ones, same pad size as the 993 GT2) with matching rear reds. A great solution, never had a problem ever since. From Clubsport I remember that depending on driving style some people had a lot of problems with hot brakes, others hadn´t.
In any case, a really working cooling system helps. But I think, only a few out there really do work. Most ones are for the show.
The 964 Cup cars never had cooling ducts and on some tracks that was a big problem. One guy running a team told me that they replaced the calipers(!) about every third race those days, because the heat had killed them.
On a circuit, which is not a brake killer, the standard brake should be fine. It might make more sense to work on the driving style. But that´s a different story again...
Rgds
Hacki
Hacki
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ORIGINAL: Melv
ORIGINAL: PhilRS
An even better way to save money is to brake later and harder [
Absolutely -I'm glad someone said that in the end -thanx Phil!!
I just tried to say it the friendly way. I absolutely agree having foumd out the hard way myself. Brake late, hard! and short - it saves brakes and money.
Hacki
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