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Front Control Arms - New or Recons?

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My car needs a two replacement front wishbone arms, my local Porsche dealer wants about £450 per arm and £140 labour costs. I can get 2 reconditioned wishbones from porsch-apart for £150 per arm (+2 year warranty) and another local porshe specialist will do the work for £70+vat.

Is there any reason to go for the more expensive option?

Any feedback greatly appreciated!

Soj
 
There is also the option of refurbing your current ones (if you can live with the car off the road while they are done). http://www.david-gilmour.com/
 
Cheers Fen, I think my bushes are not so rubbery anymore either, is this a common problem?
 
I've heard stories of Porscheshop recon wishbones breaking down after a relativley short period and so opted for second hand wishbones from a breaker. I now have a spare set of wishbones (my redundant originals) which I will get Gilmoured when the time comes.

Note that your suspension will require re-aligning after replacing your wishbones so, unless the cheap option is with a specialist with the correct equipment you may be better off going to your Porsche centre.
 
About 9 years ago i got a gearbox fixed by Gilmore & Son in one of my works vans. (tail shaft oil seal leak and lack on maintanance on my part!!!) Anyway, they made a total @rse of it, it would hardly engage 1st gear and reverse, and there was no spring between the gears.

I took the van across to them and they drove it and agreed it was not right, they then suggested i could drop the box off the following day. But said it was my cost and my problem to get it removed and droped off..

I would rather pay OPC £1000 for 2 new front arms than give them 10p to do anything on my car. I should have guessed they were wearing stetsons and spurs and there were horses tied up round back...
 
Thats interesting as they (Gilmour) have had some good reports on Titanic, however all is not lost, Hartech will also refurbish your wishbones for similar money.
Tony
 
ORIGINAL: 944Turbo

Thats interesting as they (Gilmour) have had some good reports on Titanic, however all is not lost, Hartech will also refurbish your wishbones for similar money.
Tony

Lucky me backed myself into a corner there. Knowing my luck both wishbone will let go tomorrow...And one of the was replaced last year by OPC!! I have had no dealing with Gilmour on the wishbone front, but i hope they are better at refurbing them than gearboxes..

WHY do we have to pay so much for parts....Its very annoying..
 
WHY do we have to pay so much for parts....Its very annoying..

Because

a) The car has been out of production for over 10 years.

b) In general terms it was a low production run.

c) The design of the parts ensured they were of the highest quality.

d) It's a Porsche.
 
ORIGINAL: John Sims

WHY do we have to pay so much for parts....Its very annoying..

Because

a) The car has been out of production for over 10 years.

b) In general terms it was a low production run.

c) The design of the parts ensured they were of the highest quality.

d) It's a Porsche.

Maybe its time to move back to something more fitting with my salary, like a Skoda.
 
I would rebuild them yourself. If you are even partially mechanically inclined, and have a dcent-sized bench vise, it takes about 4 hours total for both sides including removal, rebuild, and replacement.

The kit for the balljoints that I prefer is from SSI Auto. It has brass bushings instead of the stock poly and is patterned after the joints that the factory used in the 951 Cup cars. Here is the link:

http://www.ssiauto.com/index.shtml?/porscheperformance.shtml

When you order the kit, it comes with everything you need except for grease and new circlips. If you can't find new circlips at your local hardware store, www.rennbay.com has them.

ONE COMMENT ON "REBUILT" A-ARMS THAT YOU MAY PURCHASE FROM VARIOUS VENDORS: They often have done the rebuild in a way that is less than acceptable. Often times you see where they have drilled out the mounting area of the a-arm where the balljoint goes, and have pressed in a sealed kit called a "febi" kit. This is a one-time repair that does not last long. And, once it goes bad, it cannot be rebuilt. You are much better off rebuilding them yourself with the proper kit.

If for some reason the front a-arm bushings are in bad shape, you can get red polyurethane Weltmeister bushings. They are available from many vendors, including www.paragon-products.com. These are a little harder to replace than the balljoints. You have to break the end sleeves off them, then cut out the old rubber with a hot knife. After that, you need to take a hacksaw blade and CAREFULLY cut a longitudinal cut in the inner sleaves, so that they can be compressed and removed from the aluminum arm. Once that is accomplished, the new red bushings and brass inner tube press right in by hand.

Once done, a proper alignment is in order.

I would suggest, at this time when you have it all torn apart and are saving a lot of money by doing it yourself, treat your car to a new set of 968 caster blocks for the rear of the a-arms.

Hope that helps!

Cheers,

Jeremy
 
Thanks for the feedback all.

I'm booked in at my OPC tomorrow, they have given me a ballpark price of £450/Control Arm and about £140 Labour cost...then another 2 1/2 hours labour for the geometry test.

The appointment tomorrow is just to check what I need done, then I will have a price to decide whether I want to go OPC or refurb!
 
Good news my balljoints seem fine, the problem is with my Anti-Roll bar bushes, they're replacable so that should save me a few quid!.

I'm getting a call back later with exact costs...
 
I wrongly diagnosed the problem, I've read the balljoints are a common problem and when I had some judder when turning at speeds it screamed balljoints to me. When I described the problem to a Porsche mech. he agreed with my diagnosis...until it went on the ramps this morning...
 
Don't suppose anyone know if there's a UK supplier for the SSI Auto kits or how much they'd cost to ship over?

My offside balljoint has gone and whilst I've sourced replacements I wouldn't mind rebuilding them for future use?

Cheers
 
Re: Purchasing direct from the states.

As a rule of thumb:-

The price advertised in $ is what you will eventualy pay in £ after shipping and duty.

Payment of duty isn't a problem, you will either pay the postman whan he delivers your package or if delivered by UPS they will invoice you subsequently.
 

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