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Future 944 prices

Copperman05

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I like a good debate so thought I would ask your opinions on the future prices of the 944.

Now I know most of use didnt buy our cars as furture investments and do not expect the model to ever reach particularly high prices but after reading an article here it got me thinking about it.

The 944 is a well respected car, no doubt about that so its popularity is not an issue. Therefore how do you see its future price? How do other Porsche models like the 968 and Boxster affect its appeal and is it still not considered a real Porsche by some?

Edd
 
My personal view is that the best cars will gain a little in value but not much. Both the 944 and to a lesser extent the 968 are at a cross roads whereby properly sorted nice cars are getting rarer. A car that isn't low mileage will or already would have required much more money spending on it then most are willing to accept to pay on car only worth a few K.

There is already a big gap between the 3.2 carrera and 944, can't see this changing personally, and again really nice 3.2's will undoubtedly go up in value in the future. I will not be at all surprised if we see £20K required soon to get a puka 3.2, with any luck this will drag up the other older models. We have already seen a nearly 100% increase in the prices asked for the 924 cgt since I have been around these cars. Only 5 or 6 years back one could get a nice cgt for £10K easy, no chance now.
 
In the 12 years I've had my S2 I've read many times that one day these cars will start to rise in value. I won't hold my breath as they are still way too common to be a rarity and most are not exactly in pristine condition. Maybe another 12 years [;)]
 
Because they are good value alot of them are being used as everyday cars (which they were designed to be)more so than higher value things like 3.2s,964s but what i reckon will happen is it will become a much much rarer car than it is now,as with everyday use some will get crashed,corrsion,big repair bills will kill lots if not most of them of unfortunately[:(].The really nice ones will become real retro curiosities,in 10 years time people will look at pop up head lights like they are from outer space,give it 15 years and who knows.I don't reckon they will ever be worth big money but they will definetly regain a half decent value one day,at the end of the day it is a Porsche and a practical,quick and reliable and the old "its not a real porsche "is a bit out of date as the company is building all types of non 911 type cars and the 924-944-968 lineage is one that spanned decades, Don't forget they also raced it.I absoloutley love the 944,especially the turbo variant(anyone guess that already?[:D]) after all this time it still excites me and touch wood i will be able to own at least one for the rest of my driving/ life.Its my favourite Porsche no matter what its worth.
 
I think it depends on the future health of the whole classic car scene which is under unfair pressure from Government and EU legislation and petrol cars in general are threatened by the whole "global warming" con. If Britain manages to overcome the worst of EU regs on older vehicles and the global warming scare is completely discredited (which is happening now, thankfully), then provided petrol is still available and does not become even more stupidly expensive, then interest in older, classic cars will grow.

The 944 will be seen as an exceptionally practical, good looking and stylish older sports car and values will start to solidify. More will then get restored, including bodywork restoration (it's only sills and wings!!) and the low number of cars surviving will make the 944 seem even more desirable. Like 80's Ferarris are becoming. A 944 will become a much rarer sight in scrapyards (unless cat A or B write offs).

I predict that true collectors will want the very early square dash 2.5 models- especially with cheque board seat trim and these will become as valuable as turbo's and S2's. And that modified cars will start being converted back to standard. Anyone who cut their S 2 about to fit a Vauxhall V-8 engine will regret it!

Let's see how much of the above comes true. I am talking over a 5- 10 year time span. So to make money on this buy an early 2.5, the older the better, and start restoring it now. It has to be better than the pathetic interest money gets in the bank these days!!!
 
I reckon a late original looking(wheels,mirrors,indicators) 250 turbo in a popular colour scheme/interior is the potential climber...
 
I dont hold with the view that they are 'way too common' cos there not really that common any more. I quick look on piston heads classifieds shows 438 Boxters for sale, which compares with 52 944's and 27 968's, I would have expected the 968 to 944 ratio to have been greater (should be less 968's) but this may be due to the fact they attract higher prices and so are less abused, they are of course newer too.

Whilst I dont see the 944 becoming the rarity the 914 has I do believe it has a much larger enthusiast following and is rightly seen by many as a very capable car, perhaps more so than the 914 ever was. The 944 is a car to me that Porsche got very right, its well respected within the motoring community and influenced even the styling of other cars during the 1980's (just look at the 2nd gen RX7!).

To be fair cars with the Porsche badge will always attract interest from potential buyers, just how much the 944 will attract over time remains to be seen...

Edd
 
I reckon there can't be more than 400-500 S2s on the road these days. Most of them seem to be in either white or red (sorry James but it's a known fact that most were made in that colour ;)).

The 968 IMO has bucked the trend of 'improper' Porsches, seeing that seem to be worth as much at the Boxsters these days.

I reckon it will be quite some time before the 944 goes up in value. It's not helped by people saying you can get a good Turbo for £3k, when as some are finding it's not quite the case.
 
I think John's correct that politics will change the way petrol cars fair over the coming decades. Whether you believe, or care, about CO2 emissions it's a fact that energy will become greatly more expensive as the world's population both increases, and demands more of the luxuries that we have in the developed world. Even if you don't think we're at "peak oil" yet, once Tata sell countless millions of their little Nano we will be seeing petrol priced at a level where we actually begin to think about using energy differently. A recent survey in London concluded that over 30% of car journies were less than 1 mile. That's madness whichever way you look at it.

Personally, I like the idea of different technologies. Why not have alternatives to fossil fuel-driven vehicles in the future, just as we've moved from horses or steam in the past? I know we're a long way from it now, but I'd bet most of us would actually be happy to pop to Tesco in a hydrogen car when petrol hits £10 per gallon, or £15, or £20?

Where does that leave petrol cars in the long term? My guess would be that only the most desireable cars will survive, in the hands of wealthy collectors or mad petrolheads. Like people insist on driving an old MGB, when they could have an MX5 for less money and greater reliability, there will always be a few of us who keep older cars going. Whether that will include the 944, quite possibly. It's always going to be relatively simple and economical to maintain. It's never going to match the value of an F40, though.

My concern with the 944 is always that people compare it with more modern cars. Of course, you can now get a GTR, Evo, XK8 etc. for the same money as a good 944. But, and it's a big but, I'd say it's not going to be easy to match the costs and reliability of a 944, over several years, with very many other cars. I know we read all day that the cars are niggly, and getting older, and rusting, and leaking. That's just the way we read about them on forums, we usually only post when something has gone wrong or people buy them without researching properly.

I think it will continue to be one of the most respected "classics". Whether that means prices increasing, I can't see it, as I can only see petrol car demand gradually declining. What we will have is good cars becoming rarer and holding their value, and poorly-maintained sheds devaluing to nothing, as they are already. An investment? Possibly not. Relatively cheap fun? Oh yes. [:D]
 
I've always been Mr negative about future 944 prices but someone non-944 I was chatting to the other day came up with a really good point and it made me think.

The 944 was a very well respected car in its time and has always been known as a good drivers car. The main reason the price fell so far was because of the number sold and the reason its not picked up is because they were built so well there's still too many about but look at the Mk1 Escort! Thats another good drivers car that you could pick up for under £1000 10 or so years ago. Now they're rare they fetch nearer £20,000! I think now after 25 years 944's are finally starting to deteriorate if not looked after properly and just look how many there are available on Ebay etc being broken!

I now believe honestly that in 10years the 944 value's will be a lot stronger than they are now.[:)] That's not why I like them though. I'm like Mark I'd have a 944t no matter what they cost/what their reputation.
 
500 S2s could be about right. I remember reading that in 1990, ten thousand 944's were manufactured. Split roughly 1/3 between S2 coupe, turbo and Cabriolet. Assuming half of these went to the USA, that is 1500 S2 coupes for the rest of the world and, if ~ 20% of these were sold in the UK, that could be as low as 900 944 S2 coupes in total sold in 89, 90 and 91. It is entirely possibly that only about half of these survive now, making the 944 S2 coupe a rare car.

As for the 968, a magazine tested a 944S2 and a 968 side by side and concluded that the 968 was a better car, but not by much and that the S2 was a real bargain being 95% as good for 50% of the price.
 

ORIGINAL: DivineE

I've always been Mr negative about future 944 prices but someone non-944 I was chatting to the other day came up with a really good point and it made me think.

The 944 was a very well respected car in its time and has always been known as a good drivers car. The main reason the price fell so far was because of the number sold and the reason its not picked up is because they were built so well there's still too many about but look at the Mk1 Escort! Thats another good drivers car that you could pick up for under £1000 10 or so years ago. Now they're rare they fetch nearer £20,000! I think now after 25 years 944's are finally starting to deteriorate if not looked after properly and just look how many there are available on Ebay etc being broken!

I now believe honestly that in 10years the 944 value's will be a lot stronger than they are now.[:)] That's not why I like them though. I'm like Mark I'd have a 944t no matter what they cost/what their reputation.
No I agree this man. I have seen this before, I used to love my old Saab 900 T16S. I bought that car probably when they where at their cheapest at about 1500 quid, in the years after a lot rusted through and where just broken up. Now a mint condition 900 is properly rare and is worth a surprising amount of money. Last year I looked for one as I missed mine but all the really properly nice ones where up around £5K, £5K I tell you for fwd hatchback. No chance so I bought a 968 instead. I firmly believe the same will happen with the 944 as its only the tiny mad bunch like us that are willing to spend a lot of money or time making these cars puka, it really saddens me to see it but in the past couple of years I have seen more rust heap dog 944's then nice ones, and I mean really really dog eared looking cars.
 
I would like to think that prices will firm up a bit for the relatively few remaining really good condition cars (of whatever variant) as more and more poor condition examples finally succumb to neglect and are considered too uneconomic to repair. Possibly then the 944 will gain the true classic status it deserves while Joe Public will turn more and more to the bargain end of the Boxster market for their "Porsche experience on a budget". I think the 914 analogy is a good one and while I suspect the cars are never going to make big bucks they should be making more than they are at present without doubt.
 
Good uns will be sought after, and spare part prices will also rise as Porsche cut back on providing them........you read it here !
 
I believe it's only a matter of time before 944 values start to rise. The styling is starting to almost symbolise a generation of pedigree sports coupe. A classic car that's so good will eventually establish a cult following willing to pay strong money for decent cars.

Not that I'll be selling[;)]
 
924s have started to become rare and it hasnt positively affected the value unfortunately, unlike MK2 Escorts. 944s seem to be at a point now that the 914 was at in the mid-nineties: many being dismantled rather than repaired. Whether the values will eventually follow those of the mid-engined car remains to be seen. If so then Id expect it to be a long wait with the majority of other cars falling by the wayside and the more valuable cars remaining will become weekend indulgences at best...
 
ORIGINAL: sc0tty
I see only S2 prices will rise, especially white ones.
Good call. [;)]

But blue ones will rise in value even more. (Particularly those with linen leather sports interiors and good-looking owners!) [:)]


Oli.
 
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ORIGINAL: sc0tty
I see only S2 prices will rise, especially white ones.
Good call. [;)]

But blue ones will rise in value even more. (Particularly those with linen leather sports interiors and good-looking owners!) [:)]


Oli.

Never seen an S2 with that combination...

Btw, did you get that package Oli - left with a neighbour?
 

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