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Gaz suspension ?.

pauly

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Just getting ready to lash out on some KW's but I was wondering if anyone has used the Gaz coilover kit on a road car, my car isn't a daily driver so I could tolerate some harshness and the Gaz kit is quite a bit cheaper but is it anywhere near the KW quality ?.
 
Quality is subjective. The quality of the kit is excellent, although the on-road ride wont be quite as good. KW dampers are valved to avoid crashing and banging at lower speed; but when you speed up GAZ are more than able to keep up. Lali (Nurburgsingh on PH) has GAZ dampers on his 968, which is road registered; so he should be able to tell you exactly how theyll ride.
 
Thanks, I contacted Gaz to ask some questions, when they come back to me I'll share the info.
 
Hello...

I've got both of the GAZ kits on cars, I've got the "normal" coliovers on the 924CGt and the remote resevoir race kit on the 968.

The single adjustable kit is fairly comparative to the KWV3's i had on my S2, prehaps a touch firmer on the hardest setting. But its in no way overly harsh on the road. and works really well on the track.

The race kit is almost unbearable on all but the smoothest of roads. Having a fast blast across county on B roads is an absolute NONO. On track though... it is significantly better.

I havent had any issues on the quality of the kit, obviously its not stanless steel, but I dont drive the cars in the wet unless I get caught out.
We also used the race kits on the two 24hour cars and they didn't suffer with any issues at all.


 
I've just had the normal Gaz coilovers fitted to my 944t, TBH it's been a bit of a nightmare due to trying to reduce the rear ride height! I think that this is a known problem with all aftermarket suspension due to the TB's, I had mine reindexed which is not an easy job and cost me a lot of money in labour charges and new mounts, fuel lines etc.

The other issue is the rattley rear springs, if you wind them up too tight the rear sits too high, when you back them off they rattle around. They are on a soft setting at the moment so I'm going to firm up the dampers to see if that makes any difference. I let you know in the next few days. I also had a few problems with Gaz sending the shocks with the wrong type of rose mountings, ie not off set on the rears, which was a bit of a pain but they did send the correct mounts with out any issues.

My car is mainly for track use, once I've done my next track day I'll post my views comnpared to the MO30.

http://www.porscheclubgbforum.com/tm.asp?m=441179 This is a link to my original post.

Dom
 
Who fitted them for you Dom?

I've never heard any rattles from my shocks... I agress that the ride hieght is a PITA but as you said replacing 944/68 suspension will always involve some messing about with the TB's
 
GT one fitted them and did the Geo. Trouble is though once the rear end is apart it opens a load of cans of worms!! My fuel lines were rotten and it is obviously a good time to change them etc!

GT One wondered if you could run the Gaz without the rear helper spring, has anyone tried this before?
 
ORIGINAL: lali
The race kit.....is significantly better.

I suspect that some people will be up in arms when they read this Lali. Ive suggested that GAZ are of equal quality to KW and I have been pilloried on PH.
 
I assume there are similarities between the Leda I'm running and the Gaz stuff, if this is the case I can give it a thumbs up as its been great for me. I've had the torsion bar reindexed a couple of times without problems, I'd suggest the key is finding someone who isn't frightened by the thought of doing it (you'd be surprised how many people seem to want to run a mile when you mention it...).
 
Great similarities Id expect. With old Leda that is, not new Leda..... Pete, if you cut a 65mm hole in the leading edge of the rear wheelarch (in line with the torsion bar), then re-indexing will only take about 15 minutes...
 

ORIGINAL: 996dom
I also had a few problems with Gaz sending the shocks with the wrong type of rose mountings, ie not off set on the rears, which was a bit of a pain but they did send the correct mounts with out any issues.

You got me worried now. Mine have 2 fairly normal looking rose joints one on each end, I haven't fitted them yet so have no idea how it will all go, what do you mean by offset?
 
Gaz have come back to me and the kit is around £800, I don't know if many people have tried it for road use so maybe it's up to you what spring rates and damping you specify, changing the subject slightly AMD will apparently fit the KW's and do the geo all in for the list price of the KW kit, personally I'd rather have money off, fit the kit myself and get someone like centre gravity to do the geo.
 

ORIGINAL: lali

Hello...

I've got both of the GAZ kits on cars, I've got the "normal" coliovers on the 924CGt and the remote resevoir race kit on the 968.

The single adjustable kit is fairly comparative to the KWV3's i had on my S2, prehaps a touch firmer on the hardest setting. But its in no way overly harsh on the road. and works really well on the track.

The race kit is almost unbearable on all but the smoothest of roads. Having a fast blast across county on B roads is an absolute NONO. On track though... it is significantly better.

I havent had any issues on the quality of the kit, obviously its not stanless steel, but I dont drive the cars in the wet unless I get caught out.
We also used the race kits on the two 24hour cars and they didn't suffer with any issues at all.

Thanks lali.
 
ORIGINAL: pauly

Gaz have come back to me and the kit is around £800, I don't know if many people have tried it for road use so maybe it's up to you what spring rates and damping you specify, changing the subject slightly AMD will apparently fit the KW's and do the geo all in for the list price of the KW kit, personally I'd rather have money off, fit the kit myself and get someone like centre gravity to do the geo.

are they re indexing for that as well? that sounds too good to be true!
 
ORIGINAL: pauly

Gaz have come back to me and the kit is around £800, I don't know if many people have tried it for road use so maybe it's up to you what spring rates and damping you specify, changing the subject slightly AMD will apparently fit the KW's and do the geo all in for the list price of the KW kit, personally I'd rather have money off, fit the kit myself and get someone like centre gravity to do the geo.

Pauly.
Firstly ,, I VERY much dought that they will reindex the rear for that price, as its a good days work...
Secondly the price GAZ quoted you, is that for the remote reservoir / cannister kit.??
 
ORIGINAL: 944 man

Great similarities Id expect. With old Leda that is, not new Leda..... Pete, if you cut a 65mm hole in the leading edge of the rear wheelarch (in line with the torsion bar), then re-indexing will only take about 15 minutes...

more weight saving [;)]
 
Firstly ,, I VERY much dought that they will reindex the rear for that price, as its a good days work...
Secondly the price GAZ quoted you, is that for the remote reservoir / cannister kit.??

Agree with Dave, and I know that another retailer offers FOC fitment (I think it is possibly RPM?) but does not include re-indexing.

Dave, it's about £800 for the Gold kit (just normal, adjustable coilovers). IIRC, the remote reservoir kit is about £2k, but apparently well worth it and you definately need it on your '68[;)]! Speak to Corby Motorsport for best prices.

I was at Promax last week and they had a 944T in with the Gaz Gold kit on. It was about a year old and they were showing signs of rust on the units. Also, they did not have the fitment for the abs sensor (I think it was this) so the owner/promax had had to fabricate one. Not sure if this has since been sorted by GAZ?
 

ORIGINAL: bennyboy
I was at Promax last week and they had a 944T in with the Gaz Gold kit on. It was about a year old and they were showing signs of rust on the units. Also, they did not have the fitment for the abs sensor (I think it was this) so the owner/promax had had to fabricate one. Not sure if this has since been sorted by GAZ?

Jubillee clips, I wouldn't really class that as fabricating a mount and its all that is needed as this is what the racers have been using fine. Upper brake duct on the 68 is more of a problem but I noted at the weekend that a lot of race cars are not using the ducts/deflectors on the strut anyway. I have a brand new set so the answer is no and they have no mountings at all on the body which is a shame because ISTR the last of the old Leda units did.

They will rust if used on a road car all year round and the units are not covered with some form of waxoyl as they are coated steel rather then SS like the KW's.
 

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