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ricky944

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Hi i have a S2 Cab..........left in the garage for the past 4 weeks.
Went to take it out today to have a good run and found it very difficult to put into any gear...

Has anyone any ideas.........i was thinking clutch.....???

Regards
Richard
 
My S2 used to be heavy threw the gears when the car had been garaged for a while, a gear box oil change helped.
 
Thanks chaps for your anwers so far

Its strange.......when it was cold i had terrible problems trying to get it into first or even second..........but when i eventually got out onto the road it was fine...??

Regards
Richard
 
Just a guess, something to check, but the linkage is exposed at the rear of the car just above the gearbox.

It may be worth spraying the joints with grease if it has been left a while, they may just be dry or seized a little from being in the same position for a while
 
Paul,

When you say spray with grease do you mean like WD40.

also as i am no mechanic is it possible to do this while the car is on the ground........as i have not got a clue where the linkage is..???

Regards
Richard
 
No not WD40.

WD40 is good for freeing up, and for soaking into tight places but it washes out whatever is in there and then evaporates/ dries out.

I mean a can of spray grease that will cling to the linkages and not be washed away. You can get cans of all purpose spray grease at Halfords for around a fiver. Its very good for things like the tailgate catches, windscreen wiper balljoints etc that easily have their oil washed away on 944's and become a common sticking point [;)]

You can see the linkage on the passenger side of the gearbox just above the exhaust box. I think you can get to it on your back without jacking the car up, and spraying with a straw attached to the spray. I know you can get to it easily, when jacked up with the rear nearside wheel off. Here is a picture of what it should look like on a car that has obviously never seen a British winter [:D]

This might not be your problem, but it's worth a squirt.

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Thanks Paul.........

I will have a go tomorrow........and let you know........its worth a try.

I have a gut feeling its this as i always wash the car then garage it
 
Paul your a diamond and i owe you one.

It was exactly what you said........seeing as i washed the car about 4-5 weeks ago and particular jet washed it underneath that time the linkage had become seized....like you said

Bought some spray grease from halfords £3.99 and took the back wheel off and saw the linkage as your photo had described it,gave it a good soaking and now my gears are perfect 1st everytime and reverse is a dream...!!!!

Thanks Paul.

Regards
Richard
 
Woohoo [:D][:D][:D]

That's lucky because the other weak point is a bush thats on the linkage under the gearstick gaitor, and even I'm too scared to take that off, so I didn't even mention it [:-]

Well done you slick shifter
 
I replaced the bush under the gator (and the lever) not too tricky (parts about £30 from OPC) and has removed a lot of the slack from the linkage - I had already replaced the assembly (A and the white bit under C in Pauls pics) which also improved things.

There is still a bit of slack mostly at the front but its in the bit where the lever (replaced) attaches to the linkage and that looks tricky/expensive so I will live with it.

Tony
 
Ok spoke to soon........[:mad:]

Took the car for a spin again........onto the M40 and off at the next junction slowing down and trying to get into 2nd....wont have any of it..... tried all the other gears NO JOY at all[:mad:].

Hazards on......engine off.......slipped into 3rd started engine........car moved forward with clutch pedal fully down.........had to coast all the way back to Uxbridge in 3rd.

Back home....at last....nightmare.

With engine running and clutch pedal fully down NO gears will engage at all.
I have to switch engine off and engage then start BUT car will move forward with pedal still fully down.........are we looking at a new clutch here...??

I hope not as its Valentines weekend next weekend and have booked a weekend away with the Mrs and 944 of course.

Can anyone help me here please...???

Any suggestions would be gratefully appreicated as i need the car for next weekend
 
we looking at a new clutch here...??

Sounds more like the clutch whon't release, to me. Have you checked the fluid for your clutch pedal? Are you losing any? could be the clutch master or slave cylinder leaking perhaps? Does it work if you pump the pedal?
 
Have you checked the fluid for your clutch pedal? Are you losing any? could be the clutch master or slave cylinder leaking perhaps? Does it work if you pump the pedal?

John,

Sorry i am not that technical when it comes to the oily bits whereabouts are these bits located..??

No..........i tried pumping the pedal a few times and still no joy

Had a look on garage floor nothing to report of any leakage.

Dont understand this at all..........its fine when engine is off.......goes into gear easily........but soon as fired up........shoots forward and will not come out of gear
 
The clutch fluid reserviour is located on the left hand bulkhead (when viewed from the front) where the peddals go through. It is a white plastic container about 3" diameter.

If the clutch isn't disengaging you have the effect of the engine being connected directly to the gear box i.e. you can't release the gears from the engine when the engine is running. When the engine is switched off, there is sufficient movement to allow the gear cogs to slide past each other.

It is possible to change gear without the clutch but it can be a bit exciting. Generaly you can slip the box out of gear into neutral if you take the pressure off the box by lifting off the gas. Once in neutral it is a case of matching the engine speed to that of the gears before slipping it into gear. If you apply gentle pressure to the stick in the dirrection of the gear you want and slowly change the engine revs around the approximate speed you know it should be for the gear relative to the road speed it should slip in. This all has to be done with the car moving. If you have to stop you have no option but restarting the engine in gear making sure you have slipped it out of gear befor stalling to a stop.

I have to admit to only doing this in a Mk1 Ford Escort after the clutch cable broke and I had to get home from 50 miles away (You can't believe how slowly you can creep towards trafic lights and junctions hoping you don't have to stop completely). Subsequently I would occaisionaly do clutchless changes, just because I could and because that's what the rally drivers of the day did. I haven't tried it in the Porsche though. [8|]
 
Ok........got the Cab back today.

Those boys at JZ Machtech are fantastic...!!!

It was only the clutch cross shaft that had come undone.
(any one got a pic as they did explain to me but i am no mechanic)

Turns out to have no leaks......clutch is fine....all in all an hrs labour.

Newquay here i come for the weekend.
 

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