Good and Bad About 964 ( Help )

[SteveJC]

I'm  thinking of buying a 964 coupe,targa or cab.
What are the good and bad points  to look for ?
Are there certain cars to avoid ?
Any advice would be helpful
I,m looking for a good clean example with good service history and sensable mileage, either dealer or private sale.

Steve

 

[Porker993]

Look for rust, and engine oil leaks. A full pre-purchase inspection is essential, unless you know your 964s.

Check for accident damage. Window and door seals leak, so check the carpet underlay. Dual mass flywheel, clutch, tyres brakes, are all expensive.

Heating and ventilation check it works. It can be costly to repair. Aircon in a 20 year old car seldom works, so worth testing.

All wheel drive system and break booster pump can be expensive to repair.

Have a compression test done. A top end re-build usually turns into a full engine rebuild, costing big money. Check service history and number of former owners. See if the car has been sold on quickly.

I am sure others will add to the above.

 

[Steve Brookes]

Cabs and targas will be cheaper than a coupe and a lot easier to find at the moment. What do you want to use the car for most of the time?

 

[colin129]

There are quite a lot of threads going back on here with purchase info, certainly worth going back through them.

There is also a wealth of info on Dave's 964 website (link http://www.964uk.com/ )

Steve - perhaps a buying info thread could be sticky'd to the forum where prospective purchasers could ask all their questions which would save the number of repeat threads?

 

[Steve Brookes]

ORIGINAL: colin129

Steve - perhaps a buying info thread could be sticky'd to the forum where prospective purchasers could ask all their questions which would save the number of repeat threads?

Good idea Colin. Perhaps we should start a thread that everyone can chime in on and as it builds over time, I could edit and update the first post so that it's up to date?

 

[SteveJC]

Use will be the odd nice day just for fun, most of the time it will sit in the garage covered.

I like the look of the coupe more but the cab or Targa would be good in the sun.

I am looking at a coupe at the moment , tidy car with just over 50k miles 964 Carrera 4 finished in red.

Steve

 

[turbo jonny]

Buy a copy of Adrian streathers " 964 companion " asap

 

[colin129]

ORIGINAL: Steve Brookes

ORIGINAL: colin129

Steve - perhaps a buying info thread could be sticky'd to the forum where prospective purchasers could ask all their questions which would save the number of repeat threads?

Good idea Colin. Perhaps we should start a thread that everyone can chime in on and as it builds over time, I could edit and update the first post so that it's up to date?

Sounds like a plan...[]

 

[Steve Brookes]

ORIGINAL: SteveJC

Use will be the odd nice day just for fun, most of the time it will sit in the garage covered.

I like the look of the coupe more but the cab or Targa would be good in the sun.

I am looking at a coupe at the moment , tidy car with just over 50k miles 964 Carrera 4 finished in red.

Steve

At that mileage I would expect it to be in good condition but check closely for rust spots anyway - around the screen and the scuttle panel, next to the gaps where the long and short sill covers meet and next to the rear lights. It's not going to have much engine work at that mileage so expect a few drips of oil from the engine. If it's a later car than an 89, check the history for a change of clutch and flywheel because post 89 they all get a dual mass FW and the original one was problematic so needed changing.

When driving it check that all the lights on the dash go out - lots of lights staying on (known as the christmas tree) would mean that there are ignition problems. Listen out for the humm of the brake booster pump when it's started up - the noise should stop within a minute or two. Once it has been driven for 15 minutes make sure it pulls quickly and smoothly to the red line in the lower gears - any unwillingness to rev above 4500 rpm could mean a broken distributor belt.

The key with buying a 964 is that you want to see a file with lots of history - it's good to know that lots have been done - it's much better than finding you will have to pay for lots to be done because it's been neglected.

Because of the low mileage it is probably on the original suspension so don't expect the handling and ride to be perfect....it's likely that you're going have to spend money on replacing 20 year old suspension. A low mileage car might seem more appealing than a higher mileage one...the problem is that age will have still taken its toll....a higher mileage car could be in better shape because the owners have spent more money on replacing stuff that has worn out.

Let us know what you think of it and ask us anything that you spot that seems odd....with a 964 it could be perfectly normal []

 

[SteveJC]

Thanks Steve for your response
The car has a rust blister on the bonnet next to the badge about the size of a 50p coin, there are another couple of marks on the body ( not rust more like scuffs but only small ), it does drop a little oil but at more than 19k I think I will walk away at the moment.
I'm now looking at a lot higher mileage Targa, as well as a cab this weekend.

Does anyone know of any suitable cars available other than on PH etc.

Steve

 

[Mutley]

Steve, it may have been you who contacted me the other day for more photos, but just in case, my 964 Cab is For Sale, she is on Pistonheads & the Porsche club FS section further down the form lists, she is not concorse but is in top mechanical condition, I have never skimped on anything she has needed during my 5 years + ownership, 2 people including me have owned her for more than 10 years.

When I looked I was after somebody who had looked after a car mechanically rather than just polishing them etc. that's were the big money goes if they have not done things as they should have, she has no leaks, & starts 1st time every time, roof is full closure from the key fob including windows, I just replaced this year all the roof motors and gears as they were starting to hesitate, they still worked but I wanted a smoother operation so I had them all done.

Registered in 1990 she has 80K on her now, which is an average of 4000 miles a year, I consider her still low mileage, not the ideal time to be selling cab

I have a big history file & any inspection is welcome.

Good luck with your search

 

[Steve Brookes]

ORIGINAL: SteveJC

Thanks Steve for your response
The car has a rust blister on the bonnet next to the badge about the size of a 50p coin, there are another couple of marks on the body ( not rust more like scuffs but only small ), it does drop a little oil but at more than 19k I think I will walk away at the moment.
I'm now looking at a lot higher mileage Targa, as well as a cab this weekend.

Does anyone know of any suitable cars available other than on PH etc.

Steve

£19K is very strong money for a 964 and would have to be in very good condition to be worth it IMHO. As mentioned above Mutley's cab is for sale....I've never seen it but it looks really nice in his advert and he's a regular contributor on here which counts him as an enthusiast in my book []

Fraser has a black C4 coupe for sale....about 100K miles and looking for £14K I think. Let me know if you want his contact details (e-mail me through my profile). Pics of it here: Old PH advert

Check the thread at the top of this board for others that might still be for sale.

 

[SteveJC]

Thanks for the advice, the learning curve is fast, prices vary a lot and doesn't seem to reflect the condition of the car, I am a bit disapointed that some owners can't or won't describe there cars more honestly.
Still looking and have a few to go and see.

Steve