GT4 Seats - Which one?

[CarreraGTS]

Hi everyone
Just been offered and taken a December build slot on a GT4
At the moment there is not the option of the Carbon backed Bucket seats so my question is what is the general consensus on seats ..? Is it a big deal NOT getting the Carbon seats ... OR Should I wait til next year to get Bucket seats ?!
i will be getting an invite to Silverstone so will get a chance at first hand to drive GT4 as well as look at seat options ... I am not a Track goer but would like to take my GT4 on track on occasion
Your thoughts guys ...

 

[MrDemon]

you need the 918 style seats

 

[964RS]

you need the 918 style seats

+1 agreed. No question.

 

[CarreraGTS]

you need the 918 style seats

+1 agreed. No question.

For what Reason do I need the 918 seats ... Is the car more valuable and are they comfortable ?

 

[Sandy59]

I've gone for them myself, mainly as I do plan to do a few track days etc and they do look nice. BUT I drove the GT4 at PEC with the adaptive seats and found them really supportive and comfortable, even when throwing the car around quite a bit on the handling courses.

I think they may well add a bit of value at the end of the day, but then they do cost quite a bit more to start with.

 

[MrDemon]

you need the 918 style seats

+1 agreed. No question.

For what Reason do I need the 918 seats ... Is the car more valuable and are they comfortable ?

because they look like sex ;-) and a GT car without buckets is gay

 

[964RS]

you need the 918 style seats

It's the Clubsport Package you want with the P11 seats.

Down the line the cars with Clubsport package will be the most desirable as an entity and as a re-sale proposition.

A GT4 Clubsport is going to be a landmark car such as the 996 GT3 RS and the 997 GT3 RS 4.0.

 

[DuncGT4]

Got told about the seat problem last Saturday as a guy with an order for one might pull out due to this and was asked if I would like it if he does, I said yes.

i would want the seats but would be willing to sort them out at a later day and pay the extra for them, but can't see the guy pulling out just for that reason as I feel he would be a silly boy if he does.

but yes I agree the GT4 and in fact all GT cars should have the bucket seats as that is what I would want if buying said car new or secondhand

 

[SteveJC]

Why ?, yes I agree they look the dogs, but after driving both I knew I had made the better choice for me in not specking the 918 style buckets.

SteveJC

 

[spyderwhite]

so for me it was a choice of adaptives or folding buckets but with all those electric motors the former will be rather heavy so I did consider the standard sports seats but you cannot have a GT car without buckets but some comfort is still required hence I ended up with the folding buckets which imo are much nicer than the 918 ' style' which felt too big/ wide and uncomfortable whereas the folding buckets imo are much nicer and proven for comfort over long journeys!

 

[SteveJC]

the 918 ' style' which felt too big/ wide and uncomfortable whereas the folding buckets imo are much nicer and proven for comfort over long journeys

I would have to agree with that statement.

SteveJC

 

[CarreraGTS]

It seams to me that there is an even split in opinion, which concurs with the OPC 50% have gone with buckets and 50% without according to them.

The Track guys are all saying go for buckets and club sport whereas others want the flexibility and comfort of sports seats - question: what are the folding buckets? can't see them on the options Configurator ...? They would be perfect I think ....

Lets not not forget that the Gt4 is NOT a I limited run car but a car that is produced to fit just below demand unlike an RS car - so there will always be a market for sports, buckets, active sports etc. it will definitely NOT be a long term investment IMO as over time supply WILL catch up with demand. Sure in 20 years when most cars will be used and abused, nice examples will command a premium but by then Porsche will have produced many new GT cars ....

I have been in touch with a few "premium specialists" they are been offered GT4's to "Flip" every day which shows that most buyers believe the value of their car is at its peak "right now" when the bread has just left the oven ... So to speak!

OPC told me that Porsche will deliver 100 to 200 GT4"s per year to UK until supply meets demand so thoughts on a "medium" term investment 2-5 years is unrealistic IMO

Anyway, back to the seats ... I think its logical to hold until PPC and try them all and if I love the buckets either give up my slot or wait til next year ... But by then GT4 values will have dropped again in my humble opinion.

Its such a pity pity when great cars become "flipp-able" as it's not what the engineers worked so hard to achieve bur sadly the result in financial terms of their valiant endeavour ....

 

[Motorhead]

Andrew,

As you say, both bucket seat options appear to have slipped off the Configurator (temporarily?) for some reason.

As far as I'm concerned, a seat is a seat and has to be fit for purpose for the user. The sport seat on my 987.2 CS has been more than adequate for both road and track use over the past 6 years and I've no doubt that the GT4 base s/s would be more than adequate for my purpose, although the comfort s/s would provide more adjustability. I've driven a CR equipped with the folding bucket seats - which I found comfortable - but haven't any experience of the 918 seat. If your emphasis is on image and weight I suppose the buckets are a "must have", but there's been far too much focus on something so trivial IMO.

Jeff

 

[jdpef356]

you need the 918 style seats

Which ones are those? The Porsche GT4 builder only has two seats the 2 way electric and the 18 way[&:]

 

[Motorhead]

John,

As stated above, the 918 (fixed-back carbon fibre) and folding-back bucket seat options appear to have disappeared from the Configurator for some unknown reason. Nothing unusual I'm afraid, and probably due to temporary non-availablity from the supplier(s).

Jeff

 

[jdpef356]

John,

As stated above, the 918 (fixed-back carbon fibre) and folding-back bucket seat options appear to have disappeared from the Configurator for some unknown reason. Nothing unusual I'm afraid, and probably due to temporary non-availablity from the supplier(s).

Jeff

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[ChrisW]

It seams to me that there is an even split in opinion, which concurs with the OPC 50% have gone with buckets and 50% without according to them.

The Track guys are all saying go for buckets and club sport whereas others want the flexibility and comfort of sports seats - question: what are the folding buckets? can't see them on the options Configurator ...? They would be perfect I think ....

Lets not not forget that the Gt4 is NOT a I limited run car but a car that is produced to fit just below demand unlike an RS car - so there will always be a market for sports, buckets, active sports etc. it will definitely NOT be a long term investment IMO as over time supply WILL catch up with demand. Sure in 20 years when most cars will be used and abused, nice examples will command a premium but by then Porsche will have produced many new GT cars ....

I have been in touch with a few "premium specialists" they are been offered GT4's to "Flip" every day which shows that most buyers believe the value of their car is at its peak "right now" when the bread has just left the oven ... So to speak!

OPC told me that Porsche will deliver 100 to 200 GT4"s per year to UK until supply meets demand so thoughts on a "medium" term investment 2-5 years is unrealistic IMO

Anyway, back to the seats ... I think its logical to hold until PPC and try them all and if I love the buckets either give up my slot or wait til next year ... But by then GT4 values will have dropped again in my humble opinion.

Its such a pity pity when great cars become "flipp-able" as it's not what the engineers worked so hard to achieve bur sadly the result in financial terms of their valiant endeavour ....

Which they have been doing with GT3's for years. But the demand keeps building and then new models arrive ... and Porsche have a finite build capacity ... which is why 918 seats and CS and PTS seem to be a frustration for many ...

But a few new build slots seem to be available for those who are happy with the available options.

Porsche need to sell cars

 

[CarreraGTS]

I see that on the Porsche Configurator the Cayman GTS is available with Sports Bucket seats - so why not make that an option for the GT4 ... as they are available?! I have been told by my OPC that November is going to be a key month where they find out about 2016 GT4 allocation and possible spec. I have a conspiracy theory - Porsche are going to stop building Club Sport Spec GT4's for 2016 and catch up with demand "then" produce a limited run GT4 with club sport spec at the end of the 2016 year.

Your thoughts guys ....

 

[Motorhead]

Andrew,

Maybe the folding bucket seat supplier has been overwhelmed by demand and Porsche have chosen to allocate these seats to Boxster (including Spyder) and (non-GT4) Cayman production for the time being. I can't really understand why the 918 buckets aren't available though since they're only now required for the GT4. Perhaps the supplier just needs some breathing space to catch up with demand for the first batch of GT4s before committing to further supply.

Jeff

 

[CarreraGTS]

Full Bucket Carbon Seats are back on the Configurator ..... Yee Haaaa []