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GTS Gone

ralphmusic

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With its third year approaching and needing to invest several thousands on warranty and maintenance, I have sold my GTS Cabriolet. The disappointments have been:

The centre locks have been a real pain in the proverbial and costly given my track use,
the previously reported handling issue although resolved, still leaves the car with less than optimal dampers, and
I have got through three sets of front disks and two sets of pads; some of this is my use profile but 330mm disks can't cope with the heat generated and quickly develop cracks

Perhaps I shouldn't take it on track, perhaps I push the car too much but it is a Porsche (not one of those other flakey makes).

It has been a great car with many memories including Spa earlier this year

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and two weeks ago at Silverstone with Euan Hankey, covered in track dirt at the end of a great day

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but it makes no financial sense to replace the centre locks, dampers and upgrade the brakes so regretfully it has gone.

The recent thread on the Jaguar F Type and prices of 991 CS was interesting - I thought the F Type interior looked cheap so never tried one - prices of 991s with a spec and mileage I would want have not yet approached the £65k quoted and Porsche depreciation is not what it used to be, so I swapped the GTS for a loaded new Cayman S. I will absolutely miss the grunt and street presence of the GTS (Cayman looks a bit of a wimp), but the handling is so much better (I had a cabriolet) and 9x1 PDK is stunning, particularly with a sports exhaust.

Anyway guys, it has been fun, 997 really is the best register, the Cayman one looks very quiet"¦ see you on track days.
 
Looking at your avantar, I have to say the Cayman does look the amazing [:)]
Glad you enjoyed the car and moving onto something that may suit your current needs better
 
Yep. Age catches up with us all ........eventually. [8|]

Sorry to be losing you from 997 Register, Ralph but I hope you'll stay in touch with all your pals here. [:)]

ATB.

Regards,

Clive.
 
Ralph
Good luck with the Cayman, the one I drove recently was impressive with sports exhaust ,20inch wheels and PDK.
I know we chatted a few times at meetings about the centre lock and then your suspension issues after your visit to CoG. You obviously have done a lot more track days than me in your GTS as 3 sets of discs and 2 sets of pads is eye watering!
To put that in context I would claim to be a spirited (of course within the law[:)]) driver and do virtually no commuting miles in my GTS and only one full track day last year, however at my recent 20 000 mile service my original pads were only 30% worn- guess I just don't break[;)]
So you have been giving the car a serious work out - hope the cayman fits the bill , but I can't help thinking you need something with GT3 stamped on the back!
Stay in touch
Tony
 
ORIGINAL: ralphmusic
...I have got through three sets of front disks and two sets of pads; some of this is my use profile but 330mm disks can't cope with the heat generated and quickly develop cracks

The weight is the problem - you're tracking what is basically a very heavy car for track use. Without extra cooling ducts you can't get rid of the heat quickly enough. If you uprate the fluids and pads, you just make it worse. I've not had problems myself but the faster drivers in my series go through more than one set of standard Porsche discs in a season because cracks propagate from the cross-drill holes - and this is with a fully stripped-out Boxster that's got to be a couple of hundred kilos lighter than yours.

If you want a car you can track a lot without costing you a fortune in consumables, you've simply got to forgo the luxury and buy a lighter car - like a Lotus Elise or Exige.

Chris.
 

ORIGINAL: spyderman

If you want a car you can track a lot without costing you a fortune in consumables, you've simply got to forgo the luxury and buy a lighter car - like a Lotus Elise or Exige.

Chris.

....or an Alfa Romeo 4C when they come through next year! [8D]
 
ORIGINAL: Lancerlot


ORIGINAL: spyderman

If you want a car you can track a lot without costing you a fortune in consumables, you've simply got to forgo the luxury and buy a lighter car - like a Lotus Elise or Exige.

Chris.

....or an Alfa Romeo 4C when they come through next year! [8D]
Because they are getting rave reviews... not! [;)]
 

ORIGINAL: garyw

ORIGINAL: Lancerlot


ORIGINAL: spyderman

If you want a car you can track a lot without costing you a fortune in consumables, you've simply got to forgo the luxury and buy a lighter car - like a Lotus Elise or Exige.

Chris.

....or an Alfa Romeo 4C when they come through next year! [8D]
Because they are getting rave reviews... not! [;)]

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/alfa-romeo/4c

4½ stars sportscar for less than £50K - I would say that's a reasonable endorsement! [:D]

Regards,

Clive
 
Chris,

It actually weighed 1628kg on Centre Gravity scales v 1545kg Porsche DIN spec with the DIN spec fluid levels and was maybe the heaviest 997 they have seen. I have seen another GTS's results (a Coupe) from CG and that was also materially over Porsche brochure spec weight.

I have been running with Cup ducts but these offer marginal benefits; the real problems are small disks (the Cayman S has the same size but is a lot lighter) for the weight of the car, and me pushing the braking. I thought of a smaller lighter track mainly/only car but I need my little luxuries and trekking hours to tracks from East Devon without them did not appeal and being a bus pass holder I had real difficulty getting (as opposed to falling)in and out of Lotussss.

Anyway the GTS was fun and I am glad I ran one.
 

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