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H I D lighting

barrie nunn

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has anyone fitted there car with the HID lights because theres a car i fancy but it dosent have xenon lights,,, are the hid light any good and are they bright.. are the easy to fit and how much do they cost to buy.... sorry for all the questions but i cant afford to spec a new car up im on a budget of 25k or there abouts

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wait for one with xenons-they are brilliant(!) dont try and retrofit-may end up messing the other electrics-and why bother when there are plenty around with bi-xenons(like my old car) for that price.
 
Here's a thought about zenons. While they are brighter, they do not (on dip anyway) give you any more reach. I find that it is not the output of my headlights that is the problem, but how far they reach, and zenons will not improve this. Just a thought.
 
I know a few of the 993 community have retro fitted xenon kits and seem to be pleased with the result. Companies such as HID4U or novablue can supply kits (I think those are the correct names) but I do not know how easy they would be to fit in a Cayman. Costs vary but £60 upwards seem to be the norm. I have them fitted to my Audi and compared with the originals I find they give better light, fill in the previous gap between dip and main coverage and give a better, more pronounced cut-off. There are drawbacks apart from any possible difficulties in fitting them. Generally they can only be fitted to the dipped beam units and to be strictly legal they should be fitted to lights with a self-levelling mechanism (or to a car with self-levelling suspension) and should have headlamp washers too. Frankly I would wait for a Cayman with the xenons fitted rather than mess around with standard lights. john
 
Hi, I have fitted a HID kit to my car (high beem, low beem, front fogs and side lights) and have had no problems so far after 19 months of use, the car is a bit of a garage queen so I do not let the front headlamps get dirty so do not need headlamp wash, or carry around Large sacks of potatoes in the boot so my headlamps do not point skywards and need adjusting because of. The car last week past it's MOT test without comment and the warranty was renewed for a further 12 months again no comment from OPC, however if the car was to suffer an electrical fault and need to make a warranty claim I would wip them out and chnge them back to standard just in case, it takes about 15 mins a side to do. The HID's are so much better than the standard lamps I do not know how porsche can sell a high performance car like the cayman with such poor lights from standard. I like you looked hard to find a car with the xenon lights option but they were few and far between. John
 
"I like you looked hard to find a car with the xenon lights option but they were few and far between". theres one for sale in bournemouth now!!one very careful owner[:D]
 
ORIGINAL: tyrrell1 I have fitted a HID kit to my car (high beem, low beem, front fogs and side lights) and have had no problems so far after 19 months of use,
Hi John, Porsche use a Bi Zenon system to overcome problems with delays when dipping the lights. I wonder if you notice the bulbs slowly coming up to full power? Nick
 
Hi Nick They take a few seconds to warm up from cold, in use they are fine switching between high and low beams without delay John
 
ORIGINAL: dyllan "I like you looked hard to find a car with the xenon lights option but they were few and far between". theres one for sale in bournemouth now!!one very careful owner[:D]
Yes I see it's for sale at 'Promotors' looks very nice, advert says it's demo +1 owner It should find a good home in sunny Bournemouth John
 
thats right-done 3k miles when i bought it.19k when sold.think he'll be lucky to get 29k for it though.
 
update.... well i did purchase the cayman without the zennons and purchased the hid kit and the diffrence is night and day and it was fairly easy to fit as well..... well worth the purchase..
 
Most of those I've seen trying to retro fit a xenon kit have had issues with flaky start ups and bulb warning on the dash. What kits are available that dont give these warning messages. I am aware that those cars fitted with PCM seem less susceptible to bulb errors with retro fit kits than non PCM equipped cars. Could those that have retro fitted HID kits please give some details of the makes and where they got them please?
 
mine was an approved kit i had fitted by the experts at camtune(now porsche centre byfleet)for £4-500 and the "xenons"worked brilliantly but the electrics were b**gered for ever-they couldnt solve the problem and i sold the car it was so frustrating-the battery light kept coming on and the car ground to a halt, as the standard system for ordinary lights just couldnt take the power the xenons took.so just beware!!that was 4 yrs ago so things may be better now....
 
berty i purchased the auto light`s kit from design 911 they work perfect and the diffrence is night and day..... they fire up ok and no warning lights on dash well worth the money
 
Gas discharge lamps take 35 Watts compared to 50+ Watts for halogen. Sounds like you had a wiring issue!
 
Hi have you got any pics of them fitted on your caymen mate, and pics of where you located all the internals on your car as far as im aware there 2 ballasts one for each light where have you located these, im looking to do this to my car
 
http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/drs/hidheadlamps Fact sheet: Aftermarket HID headlamps December 2006 In the Department's view it is not legal to sell or use after market HID lighting kits, for converting conventional Halogen headlamps to HID Xenon. If a customer wants to convert his vehicle to Xenon HID he must purchase completely new Xenon HID headlamps. The reason for this is that the existing lens and reflector are designed around a Halogen filament bulb, working to very precise tolerances. If one places a HID "burner" (bulb) in the headlamp, the beam pattern will not be correct, there will be glare in some places and not enough light in other places within the beam pattern. The following is the legal rationale: The Road Vehicle Lighting Regulations 1989 regulate the situation in the UK. Under these Regulations, HID/Gas Discharge/Xenon headlamps are not mentioned and therefore they are not permitted according to the strict letter of the law. However new vehicles have HID headlamps. This is because they comply to European type approval Regulations. The UK cannot refuse to register a vehicle with a European type approval. These are to ECE Regulation 98 (for the HID headlamps which are tested on a rig in a laboratory) and ECE Regulation 48 (Lighting Installation on the vehicle). For the after market, a used vehicle cannot obtain type approval because it is only applicable for new vehicles. However we feel that saying "HID is banned in the after market" would not be reasonable. Instead we should make analogies with new vehicles. It would be reasonable to require HID in the after market to meet the same safety standards as on new vehicles. The same level of safety should apply. Therefore a HID headlamp unit sold in the after market should: 1. be type approved to ECE Regulation 98 as a component. 2. when fitted to the vehicle should enable ECE Regulation 48 to be complied with (although no government inspection will take place). 3. Comply with RVLR as far as "use" is concerned. In practice this means: 1. The headlamp unit (outer lens, reflector, bulb) shall be type approved to ECE 98 and be "e-marked" to demonstrate this. That can only be done by the headlamp supplier - Hella, Valeo etc. who must test the headlamp in an independent laboratory. 2. Once fitted to the vehicle it must have headlamp cleaning and self-levelling (which can be for the headlamp or can be in the vehicle suspension - some expensive estate cars have "self-levelling suspension" and that is adequate). Also the dipped beam must stay on with the main beam. 3. The headlamp must be maintained in good working order, kept clean, and aligned/adjusted correctly like any other headlamp. Under the Road Traffic Act 1988 it is an offence to supply, fit or use vehicle parts which are not legal. In summary it is not permitted to convert an existing halogen headlamp unit for use with HID bulbs. The entire headlamp unit must be replaced with one designed and approved for use with HID bulbs and it must be installed in accordance with the rules stated above. If you require any further information regarding the regulations covered by this fact sheet, please contact the DfT at the address below: Transport Technology and Standards 6 Department for Transport Zone 2/04 Great Minster House 76 Marsham Street London SW1P 4DR Telephone: 020 7944 2078 Fax: 020 7944 2196 Email: TTS.enquiries@dft.gsi.gov.uk
 

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