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Heel and Toe set-up

PRJ

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I managed to become reasonably competent (open to debate) at heel and toe in some previous machinery, but this was helped no end by the fact that the brake and accelerator pedals in those vehicles had very small gaps between them.

With the 944, the chasm between the pedals means that with my narrow feet and a distinct lack of ability to do the oldschool heel and toe, I'm stuffed. Has anyone managed to fabricate something for the 944 that means I can perform the 'ball and outside of foot' method?
 
The method I am trying to perfect is more like 'ball and ball'. I can't rotate my foot round enough to do the text book heel and toe so luckily my foot is just wide enough to be pressing the brake pedal down with the left hand edge of the ball of my foot and roll my foot side ways so the right hand edge presses the accellerator. It works best with Cat Boots that have a nice wide sole. The technique works perfectly, my ability to perfectly match engine revs to road speed is not so perfect!
 
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Looks like one of your dodgy sex toys. Not that I've seen others of course [:eek:]
Assuming its not, is it freely available, or is it a custom made bit of kit? Oh and how exactly does it fit - is it attached to the existing pedal set-up, or a direct replacement? [&:]
 
It's a bionic replacement for my right foot.[FONT=verdana,geneva"] [FONT=verdana,geneva"]Actually no, it's a direct replacement pedal. I have a pair of matching plates for clutch and brake also. I'm still getting used to it and my main problem is that because the pedal is floor-hinged it takes a relatively hefty push to blip the throttle using the bottom of the pedal.[FONT=verdana,geneva"] [FONT=verdana,geneva"]It's available from the US here http://rennline.com/product.php/sid/11/aid/52/auto/Porsche/prodid/95. Deep breath before looking at the price... [;)][FONT=verdana,geneva"]
 
$250!! I'd have my testes removed with a blunt instrument if I ordered that.

Just remembered that I think I remember seeing a while back in a Demon Thieves catalogue some plate that attaches to the throttle pedal...

Thanks for the 'rolling foot' advice chaps, but I find that really unnatural. My work boots can just about bridge the gap, but when I'm on track-days or doing Sprints, I'll be wearing my race boots to get the sensitivity. They're not ribbed [;)]
 
I tend to rock my foot so that the sole is parallel with the floor in a karate chopping kick sort of action - if that makes sense.
 
ORIGINAL: John Sims

I tend to rock my foot so that the sole is parallel with the floor in a karate chopping kick sort of action - if that makes sense.
[FONT=verdana,geneva"] [FONT=verdana,geneva"]None whatsoever - and I'm not saying that to be facetious.[FONT=verdana,geneva"] [FONT=verdana,geneva"]I used to use the side of my foot before getting the new pedals and I found it OK to do, just not easy to finesse, hence the pedal purchase.[FONT=verdana,geneva"]
 
ORIGINAL: Fen

ORIGINAL: John Sims

I tend to rock my foot so that the sole is parallel with the floor in a karate chopping kick sort of action - if that makes sense.

None whatsoever - and I'm not saying that to be facetious

No me neither. I'm trying to picture that John but without much success.

Phil
 
When we got our S2 I expressed my frustration re H&T. [:eek:]

Since reading about H&T in mags yeeeeears ago and subsequently self-teaching said art, I now do it all the time naturally. I double de-clutch every non-braked downchange, and do the full (synchro nannying) double-de-clutch-with-H&T for every braked downchange. I even do it in hire cars FFS! [&:]

I'm finding it a little easier in the 944 with time. I do need a little more "toe in" with my right foot, and it only really works for me when I'm braking pretty hard. Throttle does require a good old prod too, whereas most modern cars need only a light brush.

Still persevering, but would consider a throttle extension if one was available. I'm somewhat similar to Paul regarding Fen's gynacology set ~ I'd remove my own teste with a blunt instrument before I'd pay that. [;)]
 
Easy mod to move throttle closer to the brake pedal;

the paddle throttle is held in the bottom by 2x10mm studs, undo these and move the paddle along one stud (closer to brake pedal, leaving the RH stud redundant), then drill a hole in the floor and fit a 10mm nut bolt to secure the paddle. The throttle pedal lever is soft enough to be bent (encouraged) to be positioned closer to paddle and there is a degree of slack at the top of the pedal, where the paddle is located with a couple of washers and lock ring. It is very easy to do this and makes a significant improvement

Works fine for me in my track S2.

I couldn't afford to spend 3K on the Nasa unit Fen has on his steed!

anybody wanting more input call me on 07749 964 993.

andy
 
ORIGINAL: John Sims

I tend to rock my foot so that the sole is parallel with the floor in a karate chopping kick sort of action - if that makes sense.

I believe he means he rotates his foot (anticlockwise) raising the heel. I do this too if the gap between pedals is too wide or if the biting 'height' is very different,

Tony

My feet are wide enough for the 944 anyway.
 
ORIGINAL: 944Turbo

ORIGINAL: John Sims

I tend to rock my foot so that the sole is parallel with the floor in a karate chopping kick sort of action - if that makes sense.

I believe he means he rotates his foot (anticlockwise) raising the heel. I do this too if the gap between pedals is too wide or if the biting 'height' is very different,

Tony

My feet are wide enough for the 944 anyway.

Well it was late, and I'd just spent the last two hours trying to remove a row of glass bricks that my contractor had fixed with Kevlar and titanium reinforced cement. It's a shame they weren't plumb. [:mad:]

Any road up, congratulations to Tony for sorting out the answer to another conundrum.
 

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