Heel & Toe..?

[garrettn]

I recently drove a 997 and was able to heel & toe much easier than my 993.
Has anyone modified their pedals or know of a kit...?

 

[Mark Elder]

Is this a matter of pedals or is it seat position? I'm a bit of a learner on heel & toe action but my perception is that it's the awkward angle I have of my leg because the seat does not go back quite far enough. I'm very comfortable for every day and long drives, but spirited driving with fast change downs as I brake are sometimes not as smooth as I'd like.

The 997 seat goes back further (away from the pedals) so that may be the only difference?

But if there is a pedal mod I'd be interested.

 

[sue11sam]

Think its not the easiest car in the world , but I have a left hooker , and it is much easier in this , because of the superior pedal positioning on LHD's , in fact I would not buy a pre 996 911 other than in LHD for the reason of the pedal position , and strangeley the cars seem to have more driving finesse and poise somehow , anyway thats just my personal veiw , probably immagination !! (Of course I would not touch any car in the range after the 993 as I am not a water pump fan !! )

 

[mmylonas]

I am sure there was a thread on this some long time ago. If anyone has the time/inclination to search (over a year ago I am sure) I think you'll find the info you want. Michael

 

[Pickled Piper]

Hi, I posted a thread on PistonHeads about thie a while back. I struggled with my 993 for over a year. I had previously had an E36 BMW which had a perfect pedal layout for heal and toeing. After much research and suggestions about aftermarket pedals and screwing a piece of wood to the acclerator, I found that the position of the acclerator was adjustable.

The easiest way to do this is to pull the accelerator pedal sharply upwards. This will disengage the ball joint directly below it. You can then adjust the length of the rod that joins to the accelerator cable mechanism. IIRC there is a hex shaft (10mm) with a lock nut. Loosen the lock nut and turn the hex shaft until the rod is at the height you require. Nip up the lock nut and snap the pedal back onto the ball joint.

It's a lot easier to actually make the adjustment then describe it. I effectively raised the position of my accelerator pedal relative to the brake pedal. This now allows me to articulate my foot whilst braking and dab the throttle pedal.

Good luck.

pp

 

[Mark Elder]

Here is the thread: http://www.porscheclubgbforum.com/tm.asp?m=160021&mpage=1&key=heel&#160021
(the one referred to by Michael)

 

[angry]

Funny i tried it at the Ring a few years ago and found it very very easy in the 993,and ive been doing it ever since...even on the road sometimes.
Makes a big difference to stability and grip.
Dan

 

[vic cohen]

Failing all other suggestions u can build the surface of the pedal up ,if the cars driven in anger the brake pedal goes down far enough to make heel and toe a natural thing ............

 

[Mark Elder]

ORIGINAL: Pickled Piper
..... I found that the position of the acclerator was adjustable.

The easiest way to do this is to pull the accelerator pedal sharply upwards. This will disengage the ball joint directly below it. ....

Hi,
I've just been out trying to do this and I must be missing something.

I've done plently of sharp upwards pulling and the pedal is solid as rock. It seems to be fastened to the floor with a hinge and the rod behind it seems well fastened to it also.

When you say "upward" I assume you mean pull the top part of pedal back toward the driver's seat - so the bottom of the pedal stays attached to hinge/floor?

I guess the "ball joint" is on the adjustable rod?

If someone can confirm that, I'll go and have a sharper pull at it!

I can find nothing in the workshop manual, except in a section on adjusting kick-down for tips - where it suggested "unhooking" the rod - but I can't see how you'd do this.

Thanks
Mark

 

[vic cohen]

U need to pull ball end of rod out of small hole in back of rubber pedal .......pull very hard , snaps back on reverese way push hard ! U will then find potential adjustment ...........if this is nt enough then buy/build a plate to fit surface of pedal , it will happily take screws ......................

 

[kitchens]

You need to be a Scotsman to do this properly they have even written a song about it
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Step we gailey on we go heel for heel and toe for toe arm in arm and row on row all for Marie's wedding ...all together now[][][]

 

[Alex Postan]

Have you been out of the asylum long?[]

 

[kitchens]

They haven;t noticed yet [][]

 

[KEVIN993S]

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[Pickled Piper]

ORIGINAL: marke2

ORIGINAL: Pickled Piper
..... I found that the position of the acclerator was adjustable.

The easiest way to do this is to pull the accelerator pedal sharply upwards. This will disengage the ball joint directly below it. ....

Hi,
I've just been out trying to do this and I must be missing something.

I've done plently of sharp upwards pulling and the pedal is solid as rock. It seems to be fastened to the floor with a hinge and the rod behind it seems well fastened to it also.

When you say "upward" I assume you mean pull the top part of pedal back toward the driver's seat - so the bottom of the pedal stays attached to hinge/floor?

I guess the "ball joint" is on the adjustable rod?

If someone can confirm that, I'll go and have a sharper pull at it!

I can find nothing in the workshop manual, except in a section on adjusting kick-down for tips - where it suggested "unhooking" the rod - but I can't see how you'd do this.

Thanks
Mark

Ball is on the end of the rod and the socket is part of the pedal. It sounds like you are doing the right thing. You do have to pull hard and quite sharply. Put your hand behind the pedal and you should be able to feel the ball and socket.

Good luck.

pp