Help with colour, again...

[Copperman05]

As you may or may not know my recently purchased S2 was resprayed a different colour buy the previous owner. I originally thought this colour was Linen metallic but after todays dyno meet in Bournmouth I was able to compare it to another Linen metallic 944 and there is a definate difference in that cars colour and mine. The colour of my car being slightly darker and more gold looking.

The previous owner lists my S2 as being bronze on the V5 and I am aware that porsche did some of the earlier 944 and 928's in what was called Light Bronze Metallic, Paint code L966.

Does anyone have any examples of this colour? I cant find any when searching so any help would be appreciated.

This is my S2, now apparently not linen metallic...

Edd

 

[Riverside]

Paint fades over time. This means:

a) To match the paint on your car you would need to 'colour match' it anyway as it will no longer be exactly the shade it was painted, and

b) your car was resprayed relatively recently, the other gold car may have lived outside for a long time, or have original paint, or have also been partially (or fully) resprayed at some point (mine clearly has, no idea when).

If you want a touchup pen close enough is good enough. If you want to respray panels you'll have to blend the paint to match the rest of the car regardlesss.

I recently had my O/S lamp pod cover repaired after it took a hit from a metal plate that fell off a truck I was following. At a glance it's the same colour as the rest of the car but it's actually very slightly darker. The alternative to living with this was to get the whole front-end resprayed (which I did have done on my old car).

hth

 

[Copperman05]

Yeah I hear what your saying, but I still think the colours were more different to put it down to it fading over time, looking at pictures of other cars in linen metallic they also look lighter so unless they have all faded by the same amount I think it indicates a different colour. I have touch up (linen) and it is close but also a bit light, and although good enough to some extent its not quite right.

The search goes on, I would be interested to see a car in light bronze metallic to see if I was even close...

Edd

 

[Riverside]

Have a look here:

http://www.teamspeed.com/forums/997-996-turbo/5853-down-brown-all-shades-brown-gold-copper-offered-porsche.html

 

[homesea]

Thats not all of them, as mine is not on it and it looks the same as yours Edd.

 

[Copperman05]

ORIGINAL: Riverside

Have a look here:

http://www.teamspeed.com/forums/997-996-turbo/5853-down-brown-all-shades-brown-gold-copper-offered-porsche.html

Thanks for that, the light bronze metallic does look close from that photo, closer than champagne metallic which was another I'd considered.

Edd

 

[Diver944]

The thing is that there are always different shades and formulations for the same colour so your car could well be Linen, and the bodyshop just ordered the darker shade rather than the lighter. I mix paint for a living and some colours will have up to SEVEN different shades - lighter, darker, clearer, redder, more flake, less flake etc. Some French cars have even more than that []

As far as touch ups are concerened, you can mix up some paint and spray a panel then let it dry. If you then come to use the same paint from the same pot with a brush then I can almost guaranteee you it will not look the same colour (this is especially so with a metallic paint). It can't - the original finish was airborne applied through a spraygun and a touch in is dabbed on with a bush, the paint will sit differently.

I must admit when I saw your car yesterday I thought 'yes that is Linen' but I didn't see there was another one there to do a comparison.

Another thing to be aware of is the colour and depth of the primer used - that can also affect the shade of the topcoat. Finally the shade can also be affected by the spraying technique - hold the gun close to the panel and apply it quite thickly in two coats will be noticeably different from holding the gun further away or applying multiple thinner coats.

Sorry to ramble on [8|] I do get carried away sometimes []

 

[Copperman05]

I still think this may be another colour, rather than just a different hue or shade or version. If you had seen the other car yesterday you may have agreed. Perhaps the issue is that as linen metallic was a colour used for the S2 and mine is similar everyone assumes its the same, and to be honect they are very close when you dont have the luxury of comparing them side buy side.

Perhaps it is another Porsche colour (like light bronze metallic) that was more found on earlier 944 lux's and 928's (1984-1985?). I know the previous owner of my S2 had had 4 other 944's before, maybe one of them was the same colour and thats why he chose it. Who knows.

Linen metallic

Light bronze metallic

My S2

Edd

 

[Fen]

It does look like light bronze from the above, but it's really difficult to say from photographs.

 

[ExAudiSi]

Was it definitely a Porsche colour that was used?
It does look quite like VW Polar Silver too.

 

[Fen]

Is Polar silver a gold? I had always thought it was proper silver.

 

[ExAudiSi]

No, Polar Silver was definitely a light gold colour. I learned to drive a Polo that colour []

I also owned a Mk1 Golf which was Inari Silver and that was light green!

 

[Copperman05]

Are you sure?

Polar silver
http://www.vwtrendsweb.com/features/0303vwt_1957_volkswagen_beetle_oval/

I only assume its a Porsche colour as the previous owner was a porsche enthusiast so I would find it hard to imagine him getting his beloved 944 respayed in anything other than an original Porsche colour, I may be wrong of course.

Yeah, always difficult to tell by looking at photos alone, but as I dont have a selection of 944's painted in different shades of bronze and gold they will have to do whilst I am researching this...[]

Edd

 

[ExAudiSi]

Positive!
It is possible the VW reused the name of the colour I guess. A local garage did a special edition Polo in 1985-6 called the Polar Polo. It was Polar Silver, or light gold, to you and me.
I think that there is some cross over between VW and Porsche colours anyway because Alpine white can be had on both.

You could go to your local paint suppliers, somewhere like Brown Brothers or Partco and look at their Porsche paint chips and see if any of them are the same as your car.

 

[Diver944]

Porsche, VW and Audi generally all use the exact same paint codes.

If you stick a VW paint code into a paint mixing package it will bring up the other two manufacturers as well.

 

[MarkK]

Porsche Polar silver was a regular silver colour that i have seen on around M reg 993s,it was then discontinued as a standard regular option metallic and replaced by Artic silver(which i reckon wasn't as nice) towards the end of 993 production.
Polar silver as a porsche colour name was regular silver no hint of gold.

 

[Fen]

ORIGINAL: MarkK

Porsche Polar silver was a regular silver colour that i have seen on around M reg 993s,it was then discontinued as a standard regular option metallic and replaced by Artic silver(which i reckon wasn't as nice)

So when they went specific and focussed on the North Pole rather than both the colour wasn't so nice? []

 

[Copperman05]

Yeah thats what I thought, I know the poster above seems sure its a gold colour but it doesnt make sense, why polar silver and gold, why the referance to polar? how is it gold? I thought the polar silver was a slightly blue silver.

The colour I think my S2 may be is the porsche colour light metallic bronze porsche code L966. On the little touch up paint bottle I ordered it has the Porsche ref number plus the name Hellbronze and VW paint code LM1V, its a very close match but its so difficult to tell sometimes with metallic paints...

Edd

And yes I just finished work hence the late post...[:-]

 

[MarkK]

[]Thats right,Polar(Porsche polar) has a bluey tinge to it.