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Reishtak

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Hi everyone - I am looking to buy a nice old(ish) 911, and came across this on ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PORSCHE-911-3-2-CARRERA-OWNED-9-YEARS-IMPORTED_W0QQitemZ280402281184QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutomobiles_UK?hash=item41494742e0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

I am very tempted, but would appreciate any obvious advice/comments you can think of re this car in particular (and any re buying an old 911 in general)!

Thanks in advance!!
 
Q plate, 964 body addenda and cup wheels put me off straight away, but if it's your 'bag'....

I would suggest that ebay is a dangerous place to buy an older 911. Asking price doesn't seem too bad but you have to assume that there is rust. And 911 rust can be scary expensive to put right properly.

I would want to have a good look at the sills, kidney bowls and front wings.
 
Thanks for the advice so far. Please keep it coming, the more the better!

Other things I am wondering:
- How much do these cars cost to run? (Obviously this varies, but ballpark figure for things like servicing, oil, mpg etc etc)
- How much do you pay for insurance? Are there any club brokers who offer discounts if (when!) I sign up with the club?

Thanks!
 
In terms of running costs - how many miles do you do?

Assuming you buy a mechanically sound car with no body issues they can be very cheap to run.

Depreciation (almost) non-existent, 30mpg on a run, circa £300 insurance (How old are you/what's your driving history......).

I guess assume £500-£1000 in parts and servicing assuming 12k miles/year. (I don't spend anywhere near this much but then I don't cover anywhere near this mileage.)

The youngest of these cars is now 20 years old, but they are very simple & reliable.

But if you buy badly with mechanical and body issues then the bills will mount fast assuming you want it sorted properly and intend to pay someone else to do the work.

I would say the most critical thing is to buy the right car in the first place.

Have a look on www.impactbumpers.com

 
I second Hagerty: ace service. That ebay car.... my god.... there are a number of fixed checks to do with a standard 911, but this one needs an expert.

1. Q plate- identity problem? Why? Each porsche has a year indicator in its chassis number? So why can't it get age verified? Fraud? VIN tampering? Accident repaired? Imported from where and in what condition? Is the car imported the car that is *physically* offered on ebay etc?

2. in 1987 there was already the G50 box- that car is equipped with the pre-aug 1986 915 box according to the discription. Something funny going on there.

3. Is it an original supersport widebody 3.2 carrera with the turbo brakes, suspension, sports equipment and sports seats or a 911 of unknown origin that has been "build up with wide arches"?

4. 964 kit- okay a popular modification in the early 1990-ties and beyond. But what quality of parts used? Cheapo GRP stuff or high quality porsche german quality?

5. An old 911 hardly dies- there is always someone foolish enough to sink time, money and effort into it. This seems such an old 911. They all cost money, but if kept in original condition, maintained by an aircooled trained-by-porsche-in-period technician AND USED REGULARLY, they cost per annum something like £300 to £850 to run. Every 3 years a big spend of £3000 approximately.
This car has not been driven for a long while, so expect ALL the engine/gearbox rubbers, bushings being dried out. Drive 300 miles and stored it in your garage and you can mop up an oil leak of 1,5 litres. Suspension bushes? Sloppy gearbox?
There is a landmark difference between a porsche 911 that passes it MOT and one that is, say, 90% as Porsche intended it.
A gullable newbie is the perfect victim!

This is a car for someone who knows what the sum of the parts is on this car, and can do a lot of work themselves. This doesn't seem to be a car for a novice.

6. 12k can provide you a very very good 911 SC 204 bhp or a 3.2 carrera that requires work in the next two years. Go for something with a cast iron history, owned by someone who cared for the car and who USED the car regularly.

7. I also second online forums such as www.impactbumpers.com for additional advice. You've got a lot of reading to do, and the book by Peter Morgan "the original 911" is a good start!

Best of luck in your search and keep us posted,


Bert
 
I strongly recommend Adrian Crawfords buyers guide. I found it invaluable during my search and possibly the best £20 I've ever spent. Peter Morgans book is interesting but of limited value unless the buyer wants to check the originallity of a vehicle and clearly you are not too concerned about this.

Another vote for the Impact Bumpers forum - sorry to say this but it's by far the best there is.
 
Why not come and look at my 3.2? I should sell it and concentrate on my turbo. Interested?

My car has a very good history with no horror stories or secrets.

£9500 for a Q plate [:D]

When I bought my 3.2 I looked at cars that were cheaper, and there were reasons they were cheaper...
 

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