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How long to 998?

nwc2s

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Any news/views on when 998 is likely to appear.
I have decided not to upgrade my 997 C2S to a G2 997 C2S because the changes, though very good (engine & PDK), are not worth the cost to change for me.


 
According to my OPC the new 998 will be MY2012 to fit in the cycle so probably launch in late 2011. Hence why I chose to bite the bullet now and switch to the Gen2 car, as to wait for the 998 would have meant having an 8 year old car 997 by that time. Not that this is in itself a problem, I just prefer to have peace of mind with a newer car.

Peter
 
My OPC claimed they didn't know anything about the Gen2/PDK until a couple of weeks before launch. Not sure I believe that - what have other OPC's claimed? So I'm not sure if they told me the 998 will be launched MY2012 that I'd believe that either! Then there's the question of what the World economy will look like in 2011/12.........
 
See this week's Autocar (10th December 08) which has some spy shots of the 998 and indicates that it will goon sale in 2011.

Terry
 
As someone who is quite new to this Porsche facelift/new model malarky could I ask why they would suggest a new model in 2011. Doesn't that mean that in the preceding year or so sales of the current model dry right up? Certainly if they had told me in June 07 that a Gen 2 was on the way in June 2008 I would have waited.
 
Most new models are 'rumoured' years before launch.

All the magazines publish 'spy photos' and 'leaked exclusives' (often with incorrect claims) well in advance. The Gen.2 997 was widely anticipsted two years ago, and you can be certain the 998 will follow in late 2011. No crystal ball required [;)]

For those people who must always have the latest model it must be very frustrating.

 
ORIGINAL: tscaptain

My OPC claimed they didn't know anything about the Gen2/PDK until a couple of weeks before launch. Not sure I believe that - what have other OPC's claimed? So I'm not sure if they told me the 998 will be launched MY2012 that I'd believe that either! Then there's the question of what the World economy will look like in 2011/12.........

The LAST place you should try to get info on up and coming new models from is an OPC!!! They don't know Jack!

Best places for info are from Porsche GB product development guys, Porsche AG workers, and the internet (assuming you get a few collaborating stories together).
 
ORIGINAL: nwc2s

Any news/views on when 998 is likely to appear.

http://globalmotors.net/more-spy-shots-next-generation-porsche-911-998/

Spy Shots: 998 Porsche 911
by Jonathon Ramsey on Nov 27th 2008 at 11:28AM

The next Porsche 911, the 998, is doing the rounds on German public roads. By the looks of it, the headlights are more vertical than the current model, and based on what's covered, the front and rear bumpers and valances will see the majority of the work. Intriguingly, the side mirrors on the car are from the 993, which we imagine are for testing purposes only. If the lower rear valance is any indication, the exhaust outlets could come in for revision, as well.[FONT=verdana,geneva"] [FONT=verdana,geneva"]These are the first crystal-clear shots of the next-generation Porsche 911 "" internally called the 998 "" that will replace the current model in 2011.[FONT=verdana,geneva"] [FONT=verdana,geneva"]Few days ago we reported that this here (same car, but from a farther distance in heavy rain) was the new 911 Turbo, but on these pictures you can see that the side air-intakes in front of the rear wheels are fakes "" and so is the huge rear wing which hides the shape of the smaller spoiler of the standard 911s.


Compared to the current model, the front lights are standing more upright and the side mirrors have moved from the side window corner to the side of the door(Porsche is using the same mirrors on the prototype as it had years ago on the production versions of 968 and 993) Don't get confused by the rear lights as these are just temporary. The next-generation 911 will feature the same flat-six engine that surely gets a power boost and the new PDK dual-clutch gearbox.

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ORIGINAL: Alex L




The LAST place you should try to get info on up and coming new models from is an OPC!!! They don't know Jack!

Best places for info are from Porsche GB product development guys, Porsche AG workers, and the internet (assuming you get a few collaborating stories together).

Ok Alex, but to satisfy my curiosity, in May/June 07 was it widely known/anticipated by those you mention that the Gen 2 would have new engine/PDK/ PCM 3 etc, as it was before my time on the forum?
 
I just did a search on Rennteam and we were talking about PDK in the facelift 997 all the way back June 2004!

So yes, we have good info well ahead of time!
 
Hmm..So for future reference, as an older "new kid on the block", let's see if I've got it right. As soon as a new model or facelift is released (or just before it seems with the 997 in July 2004) talk/speculation/rumour spyshots turn to the next model or facelift in 3/4 years time. But the OPC's, who presumably know of the process, know nothing of when or what this next model may look like or what technical changes will be made, unlike the rest of the world who look at the internet and talk to developers, workers etc. Intriguing - is that by design or through incompetence? That's a rhetorical question BTW[:)]
 
Porsche AG is rumoured to often give OPC's mis-information or deliberately not tell them anything, so that they keep pushing current model sales.

Telling customers that a new better model is out in a year or so would make a lot more people just wait.
 
ORIGINAL: Alex L



Telling customers that a new better model is out in a year or so would make a lot more people just wait.
Thanks Alex, but as I said the question was rhetorical! I do understand why they (the OPC's) aren't forthcoming about new models but in this age of information at the touch of a mouse it now all seems rather pointless.

 
ORIGINAL: tscaptain

ORIGINAL: Alex L



Telling customers that a new better model is out in a year or so would make a lot more people just wait.
Thanks Alex, but as I said the question was rhetorical!
Yeh, I know, anything to get my post count up [;)]

I do understand why they (the OPC's) aren't forthcoming about new models but in this age of information at the touch of a mouse it now all seems rather pointless.
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ORIGINAL: Jamie Garside

It all follows a cycle no? roughly 7 year model life with facelift after 4 years.

With a bunch of "specials" (colours, trim etc) appearing in the last year to allow customers to self-justify buying now rather than waiting.

And on a major change (body shell shape) Porsche seem to keep the old model selling for some derivatives after the new is released. (Did this happen at the 996/7 change?) - certainly 993TT was still selling for some time after the 996 basic editions were available.
 

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With a bunch of "specials" (colours, trim etc) appearing in the last year to allow customers to self-justify buying now rather than waiting.

And on a major change (body shell shape) Porsche seem to keep the old model selling for some derivatives after the new is released. (Did this happen at the 996/7 change?) - certainly 993TT was still selling for some time after the 996 basic editions were available.
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Yes, I remember picking up my 997S in November 2004 at the same time as a guy was taking delivery of his 996C4. Struck me as an odd decision at the time, but it was some months before the 997C4 was launched and the 996 model was still being actively sold.
 

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