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How many 'Bitza' cars are out there?

911hillclimber

911hillclimber

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I bought my 1973 911T back in 88 as relief from the job I had then in automotive, lots of welding etc. A German import, 2.2T on Webbers and a 4 speed 915 and utterly knackered. The exhaust was off a 3 litre SC..
Over the years and hillclimbing it the car is now RHD, a Bob Watson chipped 3.2 and a 915 with oil cooler. A brakes and Bilstein/turbo torsion bars and rollcage, and a few other odd bits and pieces from autojumbles at Husband Crawley.

It has been great fun and I love it!

I never seem to see this kind of Bitza 911 anywhere else though in the early Series of cars, ie pre-impact.
Am I alone?

Graham.

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Wonderful cars such as your 911 are marginalised in our club by the originality bores, eligibility wardens and navel gazers.
I nominate you to be the founder member of the Bitza Register.[;)]
I have a car, can I join?
 
There are loads of bitza cars out there. Many of them club members too. The club is broad enough to celebrate both the 100% ultra correct concours cars and the cars that have had a more colourful life. No snobery either way here I can tell you, not under my stewardship.

In reality lots of these cars were 'forward dated' in the late 70s. And then back again. Many have SC suspension, brakes, doors, oil coolers, etc. Lots of the nice 'restored' cars have these bits too. That's the reality of long term ownership.

BTW every competition car that came out of the factory was a bitza. They put them together with whatever they had around at the time and depending on which particular set of mechanics were doing the preparation. So you are in good company.

Ian.
 
Thanks for the replies!

I went to the Silverstone Classic meeting this year, my first Porsche event attendance for years and years and years.
The car got into the main area with no hassle as it looks so standard apart from the wheels (Dage Sport Compomotive 15 x 7's), but I do not recal seeing any tweeked early 911's (unless RS's count!).

The '3-2 in an early shell' is a really nice car, Bob Watson advised me to do it years ago. I love the simplicity of the engine and the electronic fuel injection/smooth running, ultra reliability and economy (!). You do notice the heavy weight gain at the rear at first (alum cased engine and box), but the massive even torque is so nice and it sounds right too, just wished it revved more.

I still have the mag cased 4 speeder as a hillclimb spare, but the 2.2 (nice engine) went to a VW Camper and the 2.4 E mech Inj went to a racer in Ireland...

It has an agreed value of £12K, does that sound right?

Must admit, it is great coming back to the 911 World after 6 years with the Impreza even though I'm back for a short time only as I need a 550 bhp Impreza just to be close to the pace in 2009...

Graham.
 
Thank god you're the early 911 Register Secretary Ian, it's great to see someone with an open mind at the helm. Half the fun of owning an older 911 is what you can with it yourself and I'm glad you pointed out that the older race cars were 'uber-bitzas' in a state of constant development.
 

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... I went to the Silverstone Classic meeting this year, my first Porsche event attendance for years and years and years.
The car got into the main area with no hassle as it looks so standard apart from the wheels (Dage Sport Compomotive 15 x 7's), but I do not recal seeing any tweeked early 911's (unless RS's count!) ...

Graham.
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Most of the tweeked cars came out to play on the Monday straight after the Silverstone Classic for the Early 911 track day. Make sure you bring your's along to the same event this year. It will be loads of fun and you can show a few of us how to drive properly :- )

Ian.
 
ME drive a 911 properly?, you must be kidding!
We did the few laps of the Silverstone track on the Sunday and it was great, just need some bloody brakes! Wife was not too impressed mind.

Going to the Impreza after 12 years with the 911 was a shock, but the two cars are poles apart as well as 20+ years. It doesn't have brakes either...


Interestingly, the 911 @ 1010Kg/230 bhp will cover a hillclimb start on List 1A tyres in 2.1 secs/ 64 feet, and the 1250Kg/370 bhp on slicks 4 x 4 Impreza will do a 1.87sec to cover the 64 feet start at the same venue.

I like the 'scruffy dog' image of the Bitza car! [:)]
 
Mine's a bitza...if that's the term for a 'genuine' 73 RSt that's spent its life on the track, doing what it was designed to do and...guess what, needing loads of bits to be replaced. But it is still THAT car - a genuine RS...and it always will be.
The sense of history every time I get in it is unbelievable...as is the pleasure of filling in the gaps in its life story. Oh and it's not bad to drive either...

I'm pretty new to all this and I'm not sure I really like the way the term 'bitza' is fired out like an accusation from some quarters. But if you see me at an event in 08, please say hello. And if you ask me if it's a genuine white / red RS I will tell you YES with pride! If you tell me it has the incorrect fuse box cover and wipers from an SC, I'll wander off. Mentally and physically.

Ant
 
That's good by me!
When I cut the front bulkhead/pedal box/dash panels out of my LHD shell and welded it all back as a RHD was a big turning point, and the car went a long way forward with bits from everywhere to improve it.

The conversion is actually quite simple but getting the steering column passage right was tricky, and lengthening the loom by exactly 1000mm was tedious. It took me a full week of weekend/part-time work to do it, but the car was so much nicer for the effort.

I found some original dash panels and when you looked at the reverse side of them the factory had cut LHD parts and gas welded them back together for RHD!

Graham.
 
any car modified for performance reasons is great [:D]

There are some nice ones being built by PCGB & DDK members .. & that includes Ians wonderful car. Any more progress Ian?
 
Hi James.

On the actual car not much action recently. Lot's of bits and pieces progressing though. Modified petrol tank is now pressure tested and painted. Chris at Fenn Lane has come up with a new dual cylinder pedal box design which I am test fitting in my car before final fabrication of the first unit. It should stop the brake pedal bending that can be a problem with the usual dual pedal box design when stamped on hard all the time. Also my complete suspension set has arrived from the US and is waiting for Customs clearance.

Garage is coming on nicely though :- )

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Ian.
 
Nothing wrong with bitzas! I have built a 72T with a 3.5 slide throttle RSR spec engine, it was at Silverstone Classic on the Sunday and Monday. I am now building a 72 with a 2.5 short stroke and another with a 2.9 motor.
 
Another bitsa here!!

Mines a 1972 car that has been turned into a 1974 IROC/RS car with a 3.2 and 915 down the back. In the process of RS-ing the interior.

Besides.. what the hell is the difference between my b*stard car and the poncy "recreations" that ae being flogged at silly prices at auctions these days??

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You have one already
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The cost was far less to you
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You know a bitza can be a lot of fun
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You know the parts you need do not have to be in a real Porsche poly bag and have to keep the reciepts!

Just 10 weeks to go and my bitza will be screaming up Loton Park on open pipes again.......[:)]
 
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