Identifying Wheels and Brakes - HELP!!!

[lthom]

Please can you help a useless female that knows nothing about her wheels! (and the insurance company want to know)[]

I bought this car a year ago and the previous owner is uncontactable - although they are cup alloys the insurance company also want to know if -

a) They are split rim or banded rim and who made them?
b) If a servo unit is fitted to the brakes?
c) The size of the brake discs if altered - which I presume they have as they are not standard wheels on 944S2 (that much I do know).

I know that this picture doesn't give much away (and I can take further pictures if needed), but can anyone enlighten me further?

Many Thanks

Louise.

 

[mik_ok]

They are 17" Cup1's. Not split rims, and I've never even heard of "banded" rims (?)

Manufacturer will be stamped on the back of the wheel (I guess insurance are trying to assess whether they are genuine Porsche or copies (Mille Miglia?).

All S2's have servo assisted brakes, and discs wouldn't need to be uprated to fit bigger wheels.

I'd therefore guess your discs are standard (unless previous owner or someone else has specifically told you they are bigger (?) )

 

[Paul Fraser]

They look like cup alloys. You can tell if they are Porsche wheels if they have a number on the back of the wheel (take one off if you know how) in the format 965.362.126.01 -- if they don't have this they are probably Mille Miglia replicas.
They are not split rim wheels as these are two or three part wheels that are bolted together, but I'm not sure what 'banded rim' means. If it means one piece then it is that.
Doubt if the discs are altered, as that would probably mean new calipers as well, but you would have to post a pic for people to know. Don't know about the servo, hopefully a proper S2 driver will be along shortly

 

[Guest]

Hi,

You may have 6in rims on the front & 7in on the back or 7in rims all round either is standard you brakes will be servo assisted and would imagine your disks will be standard to don't worry about tyre sizes they can vary from 205 - 225 on 6in rims & 225 - 245 on 7in rims & your wheels are cup1's as already stated.

Hope this helps

Pete
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1987 944S.......white & Pure just like me []

 

[Fen]

As said they are Cup 1's. To save taking them off if they have a 2 digit number either side of the valve stem then they are genuine "Porsche" (was it Speedline who actually made them) and if not they are likely Mille Miglia replicas.

Again as said there is no need to change the brake discs because of the wheels and from what can be seen in the picture they don't look any bigger than standard (nobody would go smaller) and again it seems highly unlikely the servo would have been removed. It does seem odd that they are so interested in the brakes.

If the wheels are genuine ones then maybe you should sell them to me to make the car totally standard and avoid any further insurance difficulties... [8D]

 

[Guest]

could sell you a set of 15in tele dials very nice good price to you sir []

Pete

 

[Fen]

Tempting, but ultimately I think I'd prefer the Cup 1's []

 

[lthom]

Thanks to everyone for your input & I've learnt a lot more now about my 944, I feel sure that I have all the information that the insurance company need apart from vital statistics, the secret of eternal youth and the whereabouts of Lord Lucan! (perhaps that will be in the next renewal notice).

Many thanks again.

Louise.

 

[Guest]

Sorry to butt in here, but when I was sold my 944, a few weeks ago I was told that I had Cup1 alloys on - however, mine are totally different to Louise's - so what sort of wheels has mine got on?

See picture below:

 

[Paul Fraser]

Those are the 17" wheels mostly seen on Boxsters that have the Lux pack (climate, 17" alloys, leather, etc. although they have also been seen on 996s). Some people refer to them as 'turbo' alloys but I think they are more correctly referred to as 'Technologie' wheels. Had a quick look to see if I could find them in the PET but nothing that really looks like them. Will have another look when I get my own ones back.

 

[Fen]

They are similar to the 993 Turbo (Turbo Twists) but they are subtly different. Those specific ones will have been on a Boxster initially as Paul suggested. Most definitely not Cup 1 nor Cup 2.

 

[John Sims]

So, to make things easier, we have :-

^17" Technologies (I think they were 6.5 fronts on Boxsters and 7" on 993's/996's but I'm not shure)

^ 993 Turbos or Turbo Twists

^ Cup 1s - note these are copies as no numbers either side of valve stem, the centre cap is a bit of a give away as well

^ Cup 2s - also copies, see note above


Has anybody got a nice picture of a Design 90 and a Forged D90 that we can add? We might then have the makings of a reference.

 

[pae]

ORIGINAL: mik_ok
I've never even heard of "banded" rims (?)

My only reference to banded wheels are steel wheels cut in half with a rolled strip of steel wleded in to make them wider. Stock-car and hot rod racers and the like do it - or used to when genuine 'wide' wheels we're rare and expensive (we're going back to the early 80's now). Then Weller cornered the market in cheap wide steel wheels and everyone was happy []

I'd sue your insurer for the insult of being lumped in with that crowd. Good fun though short-circuit racing is, with some good engineering in some hot rods, I don't think you'd be putting them on a Porsche [&:]

Phil

 

[hotblack944]

Wheels galore!

Jim.

 

[John Sims]

ORIGINAL: hotblack944

Wheels galore!

Jim.

Ah!!! But they are saying that Cup 1's are C2 Turbos and Cup 2's are 993 Cups. Is it any wonder that people get confused?

 

[944Turbo]

Also worth pointing out to the insurance company that the cost price is not much different for standard or the later style 17" wheels,
Tony

 

[Paul Fraser]

I've been thinking about putting together a web page to cover all this, from the PET and hopefully getting people to send me digital photos of their wheels with the part numbers. the number of questions I've seen about wheels on Ebay and the like...