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Intersting car maybe.......



Only change to standard seems to be (copy and paste)

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Very Unique and Special 993 C4S Manual Coupe, Delivered to Turbo Technik Pietz GMBH in Kolbemoor, Bavaria in 2000 and treated to a 450hp/580Nm/331KW Twin Turbo (K16) Engine Conversion (Costing 50,000DM)

But where could you use it? Dont see many 993 WB models on track these days[;)]
 
Are u making reference to it being previously advertised John??? great for fast road work surley with 450bhp
 


David

Did not know it had been prev addvertised.

Yes it would be fast - but only upto 70mph on public Roads, which would mean you are not much further than 2nd gear[;)]

I would have thought that the only pace to use the 'Beast' would be a track?[&:]
 
Sorry John its early morning. I saw it for sale last year and was snapped up quite quick. I know its not neither an original c4s or a turbo but i think its quite unique as its got 450 hp maybe
 
Only? change to standard

I'd think it'd make a great alternative to someone looking for a Turbo (without some crazy prices some of these command) and especially since some standard C4Ss are being advertised for near this kind of money. You're not supposed to go above 70[8|] in normally aspirated cars, anyway, so that is irrelevant. If it is "˜all up' and has the paperwork to back up the historic conversion, it's well worth it and actually more interesting for that fact alone, I'd say (i.e. it's obviously not some back street conversion done with sticky tape, etc). Compares with Turbo X pack in bhp... sounds fun[:D] and worth a look, if you've that kind of £ for one.
 

ORIGINAL: jdpef356




Yes it would be fast - but only upto 70mph on public Roads, which would mean you are not much further than 2nd gear[;)]


Just the same as in any normally aspirated 993 unless it has also had some gear ratio work done to it then [;)]. But if that's your view John, what's the point in getting any car that goes faster than 70mph? We might as well all scrap our Porsches and drive about in base model Fiat 500s [8|].

But more to the point, why would anyone want to pay 993 turbo money for an S that's only been fitted with twin turbos? I would rather get the real thing, with all the other turbo goodies. It's a bit of a talking point but that's all really.


 
I would imagine it would fun trying to insure it as well - the conversation with the insurance provider would get interesting when they pose the question....

"Has the vehicle been modified or altered in any way?"

Might also make an insurance valuation difficult as well.

Still looks a fun car and I'm sure it will appeal to some people greatly for the fact that it is such an unusual 993 - I'm surpised they didn't take some pictures of the engine bay/modifcation work to add to the listing as I'm sure people would want to see that also rather than just exterior pictures.

 
What exactly are the extra turbo goodies that you would get over a c4s which has all the ones that you would want as standard ,save for the hollow spokes , the engine and slightly harder suspension? It's got the interior and all it's fittings in leather, the four wheel drive system,the turbo brake system ,the rear spoiler gives it the look, I can't really see the advantage apart from factory std engineered turbo being an easier car to insure and maintenance issues? And the price falls between the two so their is money to be saved as well as the unusual and interesting nature of the conversion?
Cj
 

ORIGINAL: colt

What exactly are the extra turbo goodies that you would get over a c4s which has all the ones that you would want as standard ,save for the hollow spokes , the engine and slightly harder suspension? It's got the interior and all it's fittings in leather, the four wheel drive system,the turbo brake system ,the rear spoiler gives it the look, I can't really see the  advantage apart from factory std engineered turbo being an easier car to insure and maintenance issues? And the price falls between the two so their is money to be saved as well as the unusual and interesting nature of the conversion?
Cj


You've listed the obvious ones CJ and of them the "engine" is probably the biggest one - factors like different cylinder heads and internals. Also gearbox ratios, electronics, exhaust and the likes.

As for the price, £39K seems pretty well average turbo money for the indicated mileage from what I've seen as a casual observer - I would concede that I've not made a full study of them though


 
You've listed the obvious ones CJ and of them the "engine" is probably the biggest one - factors like different cylinder heads and internals. Also gearbox ratios, electronics, exhaust and the likes.

Exactly my point - the engine is the biggest difference, and in this case is uprated to suit, as the exhausts would have been if done properly. I think if you want a reasonable turbo for anywhere near £39k, you'll be very lucky to find a good one.[;)]

I'm surpised they didn't take some pictures of the engine bay/modifcation work to add to the listing as I'm sure people would want to see that also rather than just exterior pictures.

Good point, too - especially if it's a rare original conversion.
 

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