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Intro & Gundo hack

gav_doyle

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Hi All,
I'm new on the 997 side having traded in my 996 last weekend for a 2007 manual C2s in absolutely immaculate shape.

My old 996 (pictured) was an aero kitted car with sports exhaust, the new one has none of the kit nor sports exhaust and I've realised what a big difference to the driving experience a sports exhaust system can make, but now that I'm totally tapped out on the savings front am looking at the Gundo 'hack' to bring the extra smile.

Which brings me to my questions;
What are the pro's and cons of the 'hack'?
Is it MOT legal?
Will the car need a remap?
Does it only effect the sound? Or have any negative impacts on performance?
The standard system is quite quiet - how much louder is a car hacked, would it become a nuisance?
 
Just be careful saying it is MOT legal, it is not MOT legal but normally doesn't cause any issues as the regulations are somewhat subjective. Anything which raises the noise over that of standard car can be deemed as an MOT fail but the chances of this being failed at slim I would say. Here is an exert from the UKmot website where the testers discuss these type of things

'Question: ‘We have an increasing number of ‘boy racers’ in our area whohave excessively noisy exhaust pipes, which I consider to be a nuisance.How do these vehicles pass the MOT test – aren’t they illegal?





Expert Answer:
This letter is just one example of the many queries we receive on the subject of noisy exhausts. Given that there have been some recent changes to the Inspection Manual in this section, I thought it was a good time to cover this area of the test.

It is likely that many of these ‘big bore’ exhaust systems don’t meet the requirements of Regulation 54(2) of the Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulation 1986 as amended: ‘Every exhaust system and silencer shall be maintained in good and efficient working order and shall not be altered to increase the noise made by the escape of exhaust gases.’ I don’t think this needs any further explanation, do you?!

Clearly the fitting of aftermarket exhaust systems is becoming an issue. As I have responsibility for MOT technical standards, I need to make sure that the guidance given in the Inspection Manual is clear, and that the Reason for Rejection (RfR) does not confuse.

The Method of Inspection in the manual is to ‘assess subjectively the effectiveness of the silencer in reducing exhaust noise to a level considered to be average for the vehicle’. This is open to some interpretation and we quickly realised that the Method of Inspection gave no indication of what engine speed should be achieved before the noise of the exhaust is assessed.

To remedy this, we have added a note to the MoI which now requires testers to assess the level of exhaust noise at all engine speeds required for the exhaust emissions check. We have also made a slight amendment to the RfR, which now makes it clear that the comparison is with a similar vehicle with a standard silencer in average condition.'

Ian
 
The Gundo hack is much lower than the uk max decibels limit, and is the same change as the factory PSE (just not switchable) so I can't see it being an issue.

I find that on the Motorway it's no difference than stock. I'd go for it... actually I already have.... twice.
 
I don't know anything about this - is it something that could be done on a 997 Gen 1 Turbo, which is very quiet? If so what is the cost and where does this get done?
Thanks
Stuart
 

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