Is the RHD Clubsport a N-GT?

[carreraboy]

The 993RS RHD Clubsport came to the UK as thus....but bearing in mind the LHD cage was wrongly positioned for the driver and maybe a few other differences such as smaller fuel tank were these cars designated factory N-GT Status or indeed were FiA compliant as the LHD 993RS Clubsport N-GT FiA M003.....over to you Paul & Paul....and were the RHD officially badged RSR?

 

[vic cohen]

For my 2 penneth , have nt got one now NO rsr badging , i got mega bollockings from the conoscenti for cutting a badge up to make rsr 'cos i liked it! rs/cs lhd or Rhd was generally known as rsr in Europe, though the ' real ones' looked more like GT2 s for want of a more definitive solution.................

just reread the question , maybe took u too literrally ..........result of being in on aFriday and no victime for lunch !

 

[Jamie Summers]

Vic,
You should have said, I'd have happily taken lunch off you !!!

Jamie

 

[vic cohen]

Ur right ............my fate lay in Pret East Cheap ............

 

[Jamie Summers]

I'll see your Pret and raise you an Eat on Mason's Avenue

Jamie

 

[vic cohen]

Very Very Dry ...............still been to Jaz to get S maybe no bad thing !

 

[Jamie Summers]

Thought I saw it in the corner, I was up there picking up my RS yesterday evening !

 

[carreraboy]

By the way Vic the 964RS N-GT Clubsports were also know as RSR but no more...[]

So the answer to my original question is....[8D]

 

[vic cohen]

Aha lunch next week then ......................

 

[carreraboy]

Can do Thursday.......

 

[vic cohen]

U may have to wait until Tayab following week ! going with younger son to collect his first 'proper' car from Edinburgh Wed/Thurs

 

[SimonExtreme]

Des

Irrespective of what the factory might have called it, any question about N-GT is actually about homologation. Now, I cannot comment with authority about the 993RS homologation, but I suspect it is similar to the 964RS. The requirement for homologation is a certain number of cars built in the required period. In the case of the 964RS, it was 1000 cars by 31 Dec 1991. From that, we know that the basic is actually homologated and as such is eligible for racing in group N or FIA GT events. With the 964RS, the RHD cars were homologated. Therefore, I assume that the RHD 993RS's were as well.

I have never understood the N-GT designation for the clubsports. I suspect that it is because they come ready to race and that the changes made from the basic are allowed under the homologation rules. However, make no mistake. The basic cars are just as eligible.

In all the research I have done, the only issue I have left is over the status of the Touring cars. I think these opnes are the only ones that aren't homologated.

 

[ChrisW]

But isn't the chassis number sequence in the Lighweight / Basic M002 series ?

 

[carreraboy]

M001 = Cup Car......ready for the Porsche Cup Car race series
M002 = Lightweight and Touring
M003 = N-GT FiA .....ready to roll of the grid fully FiA compliant in the N-GT race series without any modifications unlike above..[]

It's not just me that quotes N-GT but the entire European Porsche Fraternity where they really appreciate and know about these cars......[8D]

By the way you must be pleased to know that I have hyped the value of your RHD 964RS to £60K+[]

 

[SimonExtreme]

ORIGINAL: carreraboy

M001 = Cup Car......ready for the Porsche Cup Car race series
M002 = Lightweight and Touring
M003 = N-GT FiA .....ready to roll of the grid fully FiA compliant in the N-GT race series without any modifications unlike above..[]

Des. For the millionth time, this is wrong. Option M002 is "Touring" only. It doesn't apply to the lightweight "basic" car. You start out with a "basic" 911 Carerra 2RS and then, for a Cup car you select option M001, for touring select M002 and for N/GT select option M003. Please, no more mention of lightweight, basic or anything else refering to the "normal" RS and option M002.

It's not just me that quotes N-GT but the entire European Porsche Fraternity where they really appreciate and know about these cars......[8D]

I never sugested that it wasn't the name everybody, including Porsche uses. In fact, I believe that the term "clubsport" is the incorrect one. What I was saying is that to gain homologation for group N/GT, Porsche had to build 1000 cars by 31 Dec 1991. Therefore, all RS's (except the Touring) are homologated for N/GT and as such, could be described as N/GT compliant. From that point of view, Clubsport is a better name, or even simply the title "race prepared".

And to bring it back to topic, this also applies to the 993 RS's.

By the way you must be pleased to know that I have hyped the value of your RHD 964RS to £60K+[]

I like your work. Keep it up. The RHD 993RS's are also worth their weight in gold. The buying public clearly knows where the "value" lies[]

 

[carreraboy]

M002 = 964RS Basic / " Lightweight" as per 993

So if this is incorrect Simon what was the designation for the Basic/Lightweight?

incidentally reliable confirmed (Paul McLean GT Classics) on several occassions the toutring was option M007 although they share the same chassis numbers as the Basic/Lightweight...

not sure what this is proving....