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Is This The 981 Spyder Option [For Now!]

daro911

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What is it?
On first glance this is just another Porsche Boxster S with a set of fancy wheels. Certainly, it's only the Porsche purists that will notice that it sits 30mm lower than the standard S.

You see, what makes this particular Boxster S stand out is what happens under the skin. Along with suspension 20mm lower than PASM-equipped models, the Sports Chassis option introduces springs that are 20 per cent stiffer at the front and 25 per cent stiffer at the rear. The biggest difference is the roll bars though "" 10 per cent stronger up front and a 36 per cent at the rear.

Unlike its PASM-equipped brother the damping isn't adaptive though, the Sports Chassis retaining a fixed damper setting. Final details haven't been confirmed, but the £1,000 (estimated) option will likely be part of a more comprehensive (and expensive) pack - only available on the S models.

What is it like?
On track? Pretty amazing to be honest. The standard Boxster S is already adept at showing up some serious supercars when it comes to circuit work, blending sharp responses, serious speed and excellent balance, but this Sports Chassis adds another dimension to its list of talents.

Understeer seems to be a thing of the past, the nose of the Boxster tucking in neatly and hunting hard for the nearest apex. In fact the turn-in is so sharp that, having just jumped out of a regular model, we found ourselves occasionally winding off a bit of lock mid-corner to compensate. Spend some time behind the wheel and that "˜problem' soon dissipates though.

There's little body roll to be detected either, the beefed-up anti-roll bars clearly doing their job. And with the rear so much stiffer the once rather neutral balance of the Boxster has undergone a subtle shift in priorities; where it once resolutely gripped, now - with provocation - the tail can be brought into play. Of course it's still no drift machine, the mid-engined layout dictating that as much as anything, but its line is certainly more adjustable on the throttle than ever before.

The compromise comes on the road, or specifically our pothole strewn tarmac; on a typical B-road a PASM-equipped Boxster S may in fact be a little quicker. Those stiffer springs mean the Sports Chassis-equipped car has a tendency to get knocked off line earlier and you need to take a firmer grip of the steering wheel. It's not particularly uncomfortable, but if you've already experienced a regular Boxster the difference is noticeable.

Should I buy one?
The answer to this lies wholeheartedly in your priorities. The standard Boxster S (preferably with the PASM adaptive dampers) is so good an all-rounder, with a chassis already offering sharp reactions, that this car requires some real commitment.

Venture towards a track and you'll find it entirely worth it, where the sharper reactions will not only widen the performance envelope but bring lap times down as well. Try it once and we're convinced that you'll be hooked. For road use only it's a different story, the addition of the Sports Chassis only any good for pub-bragging rights; the setup offers no real benefits on our roads over other Boxsters. Make the right decision for you though, and we're sure you'll never regret it.

Porsche Boxster S Sports Chassis

Price £46,400 (estimated); 0-62mph 5.1sec; Top speed 176mph; Economy 32.1mpg (combined); CO2 206g/km; Kerb weight 1350kg; Engine 6 cyls, 1339cc, petrol; Power 311bhp at 6700rpm; Torque 265lb ft at 4500rpm; Gearbox 7-spd automatic
 
Very interesting. Would love to have a play in one - on a track! I found the 981 superb on the road - even Sport mode on the PASM wasn't as bone-shaking as I had expected.
 

ORIGINAL: spyderman

Very interesting. Would love to have a play in one - on a track! I found the 981 superb on the road - even Sport mode on the PASM wasn't as bone-shaking as I had expected.



Verdict

If you want the ultimate in razor-sharp responses and intend taking your Boxster S on track days, then the Sport suspension is a must. The improved grip, traction and body control help make this the most engaging Boxster you can buy. However, for most owners, the similarly priced PASM system will represent better value.
How do you improve on perfection? If you're Porsche, you launch a new suspension set-up for the brilliant Boxster.

The company's entry-level two-seater isn't exactly short of driver appeal, but that hasn't stopped engineers developing a more hardcore chassis option for the mid-engined model.

Available only on top-of-the-range S cars, the more focused chassis set-up is expected to cost around £1,000. For that you get a 20mm lower ride height, firmer spring rates and much stiffer anti-roll bars.

The Sport also has standard dampers in place of the adaptive ones used on cars with the similarly priced Porsche Active Suspension Management (PASM) system.

So, what's this Sport like to drive? It's brilliant on track, where it only takes a few corners to find it's got more grip than a standard S, while body roll is almost non-existent. As with other Boxsters, you get beautifully balanced mid-engined handling, plus precise steering brimming with feedback.

Our car was fitted with the eye-wateringly expensive £4,977 ceramic brakes, which deliver ferocious stopping power and don't fade under hard use. Also included was Porsche's slick-shifting £1,922 PDK twin-clutch gearbox, which combines with £146 steering-wheel gearshift paddles to boost the Boxster's roadgoing race-car feel.

In everyday driving away from the track, the addition of Sport suspension demands more compromises, however. The stiffer springs and dampers result in a much firmer ride, while on bumpy back roads, this Porsche requires more concentration and steering corrections to keep it pointed in the right direction.

It's not exactly a bone-shaker, but it can't match the composure and comfort of a Boxster fitted with the hi-tech PASM set-up.

Key specs
Price: £50,000 (est)
Engine: 3.4-litre 6cyl
Power: 311bhp
Transmission: Seven-speed twin-clutch, rear-wheel drive
0-62mph: 5.0 seconds
Top speed: 172mph
Economy: 35.3mpg
CO2: 188g/km
Equipment: Lowered suspension, 19-inch alloys, part-leather seats
On sale: September

 

ORIGINAL: daro911
Available only on top-of-the-range S cars, the more focused chassis set-up is expected to cost around £1,000.

Cheaper than PASM then - which you would expect given its entirely passive.

The Sport also has standard dampers in place of the adaptive ones used on cars with the similarly priced Porsche Active Suspension Management (PASM) system.

Er, what? Really? I doubt that. Perhaps they really mean passive (but different) dampers?

It's not exactly a bone-shaker, but it can't match the composure and comfort of a Boxster fitted with the hi-tech PASM set-up.

Stupid comment - its not designed for comfort, so it wouldn't - would it?

I see this as the 981 equivalent of the M030 setup, which my 986 has - and recommend to anyone considering taking their Boxster on track.
 
ORIGINAL: dyllan

usually not until towards the end of production-ie another 5-6 years[:eek:]

I read somewhere due to all new chassis, suspension, and glass 991 & 981 model life would be longer than usual circa 12 years - so may not be here until 2024! which would mean 2022 if history repeats itself [:eek:
 
On the other hand my OPC says there will be "NO" Spyder model again which is strange as the same dealer told me when it launched back in 2010 it was an additional model and not a limited production run never to be repeated [:-]
 
   
 
Disappointing if that proves the case, no Spyder, I had also heard that the Spyder would be a third Boxster model line. But a tad surprised at the lack of fanfare about one being on the way ..... Heyho.

Won't hold my breath then ....... But then I guess that could be a Porsche tactic to get people spend on what is available rather than wait.

On the plus side will be good for existing Boxster Spyder residuals........ Better snap one up!!!! [:D]
 
ORIGINAL: ganley

Won't hold my breath then ....... But then I guess that could be a Porsche tactic to get people spend on what is available rather than wait.

On the plus side will be good for existing Boxster Spyder residuals........ Better snap one up!!!! [:D]

Let's hope the 237 UK Spyder owners learn the fate of this brilliant piece of kit sooner rather than later. Now off to enjoy mine today [8D]

http://www.dspyda.com/Home/Home.html

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To get the Spyder / R type suspension so early in the model's cycle is a shock. Perhaps there wont be a Spyder as the 981 already has a lot of lightweight aluminium panels and now a sports suspension. If it's anything like the 987 Spyder suspension i'd say it's not soley for the track. I enjoy mine on the road as it's not overly harsh but spoils you with pin sharp steering.
 
They do rock. Pin sharp steering thanks to a different rack to the standard car which I only found out recently!

When we went to the Le Mans Classic we did however discover a heavily disguised Porsche mule testing the new roof for the proposed 981 Spyder...

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I didn't know that either about the steering rack.

As for that new roof, it certainly takes the lightweight engineering beyond what I could bear[:D]
 
ORIGINAL: rob.kellock

They do rock. Pin sharp steering thanks to a different rack to the standard car which I only found out recently!

Rob & Flat6 according to http://dspyda.com/FAQ.html website the steering racks are identical to stock 987 and the only difference of any note is the camber settings which are quoted as follows:-

Front Spyder -45
Front 987 -10

Rear
Spyder -1 degree 55'
987 -1 degree 20'


 
Happy to stand corrected. [:D]

I read it on a thread on Pistonheads, it wasn't posted by a nutter. Have just tried to find the source but have not been successful.
 

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