Long shot but does anyone know this car?
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smiffyraf1
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wheels look too big and its sat too low. and i like the low and wide look but thats ridiculous and its got the hideous sill rust disguisers on. not my cup of tea.
steveoz32
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I assumed they were just part of an aero kit and not to disguise rust?
Anyhoo, yes the wheels look a little large, but they could always be swapped out. The paintwork looks very good, and all in all, I thought it looked like a tidy decent mileage 944?
I just wondered if anyone had seen this one around seeing as it stands out a little with the wheels etc.
Anyhoo, yes the wheels look a little large, but they could always be swapped out. The paintwork looks very good, and all in all, I thought it looked like a tidy decent mileage 944?
I just wondered if anyone had seen this one around seeing as it stands out a little with the wheels etc.
smiffyraf1
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paintwork does look clean id guess its had a respray though you can still inspect the sill for rust through the vents in the door frame. i dont know whats going on with that rear spoiler though bigger than a bridge spoiler, looks wrong.
Joss Walker
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The sills on my 944 are rusty and need to be replaced, unless you shove a webcam into the sills or through the air vents in the door jam, the only way that you can see this is that the exterior of the sills has started to bubble. If my car was fitted with these plastic covers I would be blissfully unaware of any problem as they would cover up the blisters.
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pauljmcnulty
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Personally I'd wonder what sort of owners it's had. Sill extensions were very period, obviously could be hiding problems but not hard to look inside the sills and I quite like them on early cars.
Rest of it is horrible, though. Is it leather interior, or half-vinyl? The "s turbo" bodykit is totally wrong on an early Lux, get a proper rear hatch and toast-rack. Wheels are going to ruin the balance, the whole point of an early lux is it's light, under-tyred and fun. You'll need to be Popeye to park that without power steering! Why would you do that to a perfectly good car?
If the rest stacks up, history, mileage, condition etc., then it'll be worth putting back to standard IMO, but that's strong money so it'll have to be exceptionally good.
Rest of it is horrible, though. Is it leather interior, or half-vinyl? The "s turbo" bodykit is totally wrong on an early Lux, get a proper rear hatch and toast-rack. Wheels are going to ruin the balance, the whole point of an early lux is it's light, under-tyred and fun. You'll need to be Popeye to park that without power steering! Why would you do that to a perfectly good car?
If the rest stacks up, history, mileage, condition etc., then it'll be worth putting back to standard IMO, but that's strong money so it'll have to be exceptionally good.
steveoz32
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I'm guessing someone liked the look of the carrera rims and just decided to put them on the 944, I wouldn't have thought it was anything sinister or silly, and everyone has the right to be individual or do what they want right?
With regards to the kit, I'm not a 944 anorak, but it just looked clean and the paint looked amazing (well in the pictures, but we all know in RL it could be another matter). The mileage looked good too.
Those alloys if the tyres are good would be worth 700ish as they look pretty mint too, knock the dealer down to low 3's, replace rims and sell for £700, could be a solid clean 944 for around 2.5k? Or am I missing the point here.....
With regards to the kit, I'm not a 944 anorak, but it just looked clean and the paint looked amazing (well in the pictures, but we all know in RL it could be another matter). The mileage looked good too.
Those alloys if the tyres are good would be worth 700ish as they look pretty mint too, knock the dealer down to low 3's, replace rims and sell for £700, could be a solid clean 944 for around 2.5k? Or am I missing the point here.....
pauljmcnulty
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Not at all, just factor in replacement wheels and tyres and a proper alignment.
Regarding the owner who fitted the 18s to an early lux, my worry is that they were not being very clever doing it. The only reason can be to improve the looks by fitting massive wheels at the expense of handling and useability. Same with spending money on the wrong rear valance and tailgate spoiler. The sort of person who does that tends to be the kind who'd scrimp on servicing and be less than sympathetic to the car whilst donutting it around the estate.
I know that's a terrible generalisation, and I'm being a bit over-dramatic for effect [
], but it's a consideration. I like an owner who's lavished care on a car, perhaps a few sympathetic mods like teardrop mirrors, dash lighting kit or clear lenses. Not taking an early Lux and changing it in to a bit of a mishmash for no reason. As I said, if the car checks out everywhere else then it's a good car, and you can always change things back to original if, like me, you don't like the odd bodywork changes. Well worth a look, and from the ad the dealer has no idea what he's got so you might be in a good bargaining position.
steveoz32
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Well, thanks for the replies guys.
I know what you mean about it not being original and the wheels do look OTT, but then again I'm in the process of sourcing and fitting GT3 and other parts to my car though, as well as changing the alloys, so it's not going to be in it's original state either (although I am sourcing original body parts), still, that doesn't mean that I don't take good care of my car, the exact opposite is true. I'm not a fan of the GT3 rear spoiler, I prefer other aero spoilers that were optional and will likely opt for one of those instead of the gt3 one. Some people might hate that, but it's what I want that counts.
I've just been looking around at 944's on the trader for a long time, and I'd love one as a bit of a project, this one caught my eye just because of how bright it was! Still they are just small res pictures, the underside / inside and under the bonnet could be a different matter.
I might take a run down there next week if I have time free, and I will report back on my findings.
I know what you mean about it not being original and the wheels do look OTT, but then again I'm in the process of sourcing and fitting GT3 and other parts to my car though, as well as changing the alloys, so it's not going to be in it's original state either (although I am sourcing original body parts), still, that doesn't mean that I don't take good care of my car, the exact opposite is true. I'm not a fan of the GT3 rear spoiler, I prefer other aero spoilers that were optional and will likely opt for one of those instead of the gt3 one. Some people might hate that, but it's what I want that counts.
I've just been looking around at 944's on the trader for a long time, and I'd love one as a bit of a project, this one caught my eye just because of how bright it was! Still they are just small res pictures, the underside / inside and under the bonnet could be a different matter.
I might take a run down there next week if I have time free, and I will report back on my findings.
If you are fitting GT3 bits to your car, presumably you are fitting the real thing: Porsche body parts.
There's no such thing as an "S turbo" body kit for a 944. You could, with a bit of work, fit a Turbo or S2 nose to a Lux, but that has not been done here: this car still has a Lux nose. You could fit a late Turbo or S2 rear spoiler, but this has something different on itL the sill extensions and rear spoiler on this car are low-rent aftermarket, not Porsche. The sill extensions are usually there to cover up galloping corrosion for the benefit of unwary buyers. The wheels may be worth something to a 911 owner if they are genuine 911 C4, and unbent, but will have done the car no favours at all in terms of dynamic behaviour and may have caused additional suspension deterioration. The thing is almost on the bump stops so someone has been mucking about with the suspension but there's no mention of what suspension is on it or how old that suspension is. There is no mention of any of the must-know 944 maintenance items. I really would walk a mile from that one.
There's no such thing as an "S turbo" body kit for a 944. You could, with a bit of work, fit a Turbo or S2 nose to a Lux, but that has not been done here: this car still has a Lux nose. You could fit a late Turbo or S2 rear spoiler, but this has something different on itL the sill extensions and rear spoiler on this car are low-rent aftermarket, not Porsche. The sill extensions are usually there to cover up galloping corrosion for the benefit of unwary buyers. The wheels may be worth something to a 911 owner if they are genuine 911 C4, and unbent, but will have done the car no favours at all in terms of dynamic behaviour and may have caused additional suspension deterioration. The thing is almost on the bump stops so someone has been mucking about with the suspension but there's no mention of what suspension is on it or how old that suspension is. There is no mention of any of the must-know 944 maintenance items. I really would walk a mile from that one.
pauljmcnulty
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I thought the side extensions were Porsche? For some reason I seem to remember them as an option, same as the toast rack rear diffuser.
Either way, I have no problem with them as they're fitted to some lovely cars from the period. If anyone's seen the gunmetal-coloured b-reg 944 that regularly, as in once a year, turns up to win concourse prizes then the side trims look pretty good on an early car. The outside of the sill is no indicator of condition anyway, hence looking inside.
Steve, I know what you mean about fitting GT3 parts but I don't think this car has been approached that way. This is far more like a 1.6 Sierra with a cheap Cosworth-alike body conversion, and mechanical changes actually making the car worse. What sort of person goes from 15" wheels, designed as optimum by the best car engineers in the world, to 18" wheels and lowered, on a car with really sweet handling and no PAS? Not the sort of person who cherishes their classic Porsche, probably, but still worth a look.
Outrun944
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You really need to get the inner sills checked thoroughly IMO. If you're serious about getting the car if happy with the viewing, do what I did on my current one - find a local garage nearbuy and arrange a quick inspection with them on a ramp before going down, if the seller has a problem with that as part of your test drive then walk away. For that money, and you show your serious enough about buying it if the inspection works out he/she should have no problem at all with that for a classic old car at that price... you'll also get to see for yourself lots of other things besides that under the car that may be tough to do by just jacking it up - you'll hopefully have an 'expert' with you looking at it of course...
Also other thoughts ...
I doubt it's only done 80k, I'm sure you know that the square dash models are missing that 100k digit ... so it could of course be 180k, 280k, etc in reality.........! Hopefully a full MOT history will show what it's done.
And generally, I get worried about cars of this age that have been seriously modded like that ... I'm such a cautious suspicious person, but then you have to be with 25 year old cars and it being life and death on the road ... it doesn't cost *that* much to tart up a dangerous wreck of car worth next to nothing into something that's valued £3k plus for a decent profit....
Just my 2p's worth. And I am really still a 'newbie' about these things.
Also other thoughts ...
I doubt it's only done 80k, I'm sure you know that the square dash models are missing that 100k digit ... so it could of course be 180k, 280k, etc in reality.........! Hopefully a full MOT history will show what it's done.
And generally, I get worried about cars of this age that have been seriously modded like that ... I'm such a cautious suspicious person, but then you have to be with 25 year old cars and it being life and death on the road ... it doesn't cost *that* much to tart up a dangerous wreck of car worth next to nothing into something that's valued £3k plus for a decent profit....
Just my 2p's worth. And I am really still a 'newbie' about these things.
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