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MO30 + Bilsteins -> MOT query

AlexG

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Ladies and gentlemen,

I currently have my car in being serviced, MOT'd etc.

As I have mentioned here previously I have fitted the MO30 springs and Bilsteins that many others have chosen as an upgrade option. However, the feedback I am receiving from the service department is that fitting the rear MO30 springs with these shocks is incorrect and will result in an MOT failure because:
  • The rear spring is not positively held in place when the car is jacked up, i.e. the distance between the spring 'seats' when the shock is at full extension is greater than the uncompressed length of the spring, potentially leading to incorrect seating of the spring during jacking operations;
  • The lower end of the spring sits directly on the adjuster collar, the design of which is such that the spring can come into contact with the threads on the body of the shock (the front shock lock ring has a raised 'inner lip' which the spring locates onto so this is not an issue at the front).
How have others got around the issue of the spring being 'too short' and the potential for incorrect seating when the car is raised/lowered?
I have to honest I simply lowered the car partially and then stuck my hand in behind the wheel to make sure the spring had seated correctly before lowering completely and letting the spring take full weight.
Now I think about it perhaps it needs a modification to the top seat to enable the spring to be held in place (at the top) during extension of the shocks. The reason for suggesting holding the spring against the top seat is because the bottom 'seat' is flat so incorrectly locating at the bottom is not an issue.

Are there any parts (in addition to those illustrated already on the shock here:
http://www.carnewal-europe.com/cpx/p93089.jpg) which need to be fitted above the lock ring prior to installation of the spring?

I re-used the original top seats for both front and rear, has anyone had to use a different type when going for this option?

Feedback very much appreciated.
Thanks Alex
 
This should not be an MOT failure. The tester is being very picky.

This is how most M030/HD Bilsteins will be running as yes correct the spring is shorter than the total travel. The springs are designed to locate correctly under the very very few circumstances this will ever happen on the road (60 over a hump back bridge anyone?).

There are two know mods

1/ Wire the tops of the springs to the turret tops. This stops them flapping but they still lift from the bottom mounts when fully extended (Porsche motosport mod).
2/ Fit helper springs to fill the gap.

Or just take the car to a decent Porche Indi who should MOT it no problem.

Ian.
 
Thanks Ian - it is maybe erring towards being picky, but I can see the reasoning and I am a little p!ssed off with myself for not considering the problem during installation, which would have saved the need to remove the units again.
Helper springs sounds like a difficult fix - or are these readily available? - off to Google now...

My favoured option at this stage is the 'motorsport mod', though I think I will enter into dialogue with those involved before I decide anything!
 
I agree with Ian above. I had exactly the same problem when my HDs and MO30 springs were fitted. The garage first suggested fitting helper springs but had difficult getting hold of some. In the end they just wired the springs to the upper cup.

I did contact Gert at Carnewal for his suggestions. He was aware of the condition and advised doing nothing as he had never had a spring actually come away from the cup.

pp
 

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