mobile speed camera on M1 Nottingham !!!
- Thread starter Sam Quick
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IMHO, if it is on the hard shoulder then stick up a digit to them as no vehicle may stop on the hard shoulder except in an emergency and monitoring vehicle speeds does not constitute and emergency however empty their coffers might be, so therefore any speed data is gathered illegally and in theory inadmissible as eveidence. The trouble with us all is that we are such motoring sheep that when the N.I.P. arrives we just pay the fixed penaly without thinking. It is shamefull that Cheif Constables condone this. Remember the speed camera in the back of a horse box? As I have said so many times before, if speeding ( in the 80/90 bracket) is so heinous then why not have high visibilty and deter it, as most if not all motorists will slow down to seveny on sight of a marked car, instead of letting it happen and then taking money from people? Well the answer is obvious; it doesn't generate any revenue and impacts resources. The argument that motorists will be so scared of speeding past an unmarked car that they will not speed is fallacious, because we soon become inured to the lack of visible presence and behave irresponsibly. The idea of policing is after all monitoring, checking and detering. Apprehension indicates an abject faiure to police effectively.
chriscoates81
New member
I think it says it all when 'safety cameras' are put down roads rather than street lights.
Sam Quick
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Hi
Like your comments, the van was unmarked and parked off the carragewy on the police platform/run in.
I've looked on the notts police website which tells you where they are going to b up to 4 weeks in advance but non of the positions mention anything about the M1 or motorway.
It does make me madd as they are so sneaky with their massive camera lenses that see you so far away from them and bingo your got.
Still think he should get out and catch a few proper criminals - my wife was run into the back of her car, the car hat did I ran off, informed the police and number plate an hat do you think they have son to date 8 week after the event - sweet nothing!
Like your comments, the van was unmarked and parked off the carragewy on the police platform/run in.
I've looked on the notts police website which tells you where they are going to b up to 4 weeks in advance but non of the positions mention anything about the M1 or motorway.
It does make me madd as they are so sneaky with their massive camera lenses that see you so far away from them and bingo your got.
Still think he should get out and catch a few proper criminals - my wife was run into the back of her car, the car hat did I ran off, informed the police and number plate an hat do you think they have son to date 8 week after the event - sweet nothing!
Fred Hindle
New member
If you don't speed then you have nothing to worry about wherever the cameras are.
Cheers,
Cheers,
chriscoates81
New member
True but its easy money for them.
Fred Hindle
New member
Just because everyone else is breaking the law doesn't a) mean is is correct and b) mean you can do so.
(When you have had someone close to you killed by a driver doing excessive speed you tend to get a different slant on speeding).
Cheers,
pauljmcnulty
New member
My sentiments entirely, as someone who lost a younger brother to the wrong speed in the wrong conditions....[&o]
But, given a car that I've spend a lot on to ensure it's safe, and only in situations where I'm totally aware of the road ahead and stopping distances or hazards, I must admit to doing a bit more that 70 on an empty motorway once or twice. It's totally different to urban roads where, often, 30 is a "legal", but lethal speed. Or, a country road where 60 is the limit but suicidal. A car hogging the middle lane on a busy motorway can be more dangerous that a Porsche doing 90 on an empty road, but a static camera would let one of them go un-punished. 20 MPH could be dangerous on motorways in severe fog, rain or ice, yet I've never seen a camera van enforcing dangerous driving.
People on the hard shoulder are a death-trap: I'm currently waiting a summons as a witness in a case where a car was wiped out and the driver burned to death, when parked up on a hard shoulder. It makes for a lot of sleepless nights, and much as I hate static speed cops I'd not want to see them put in that position.
Camera vans on the motorway are a real hazard, whether parked on bridges or the side of the road. The only safe way to enforce motorway limits is camera-in, camera-out, and average in between, if you want to force people to stick to 70 MPH. Sudden braking can only lead to accidents: keeping drivers in the right lane, using signals, thinking ahead, putting the mobile phone down, not arguing with the kids in the back, all are more important than singling out one speed as a set-limit, and enforcing that exclusive of any other factors.
Stuart Hardy
New member
'Someone I know' did the speed awareness course recently. One of the lecturers commented that (especially 30 mph) speed limits are limits not targets. Good advice.
They actually had some good pragmatic advice, so I'm told.
They actually had some good pragmatic advice, so I'm told.
garyw
Moderator
Having recently also done a speed awareness course, it was pointed out that Motorways are the safest places to be on UK roads, accounting for only 3% and 6% of injuries and deaths..
The UK network is one of the safest in Europe, so if the Rural and urban roads count for the high number of deaths and injuries- then why put the cameras on motorways other than the obvious....[&:]
Are they sponsored by the body repair companies and insurance market to up the number of rear end shunts from people stamping on the brakes?[
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The UK network is one of the safest in Europe, so if the Rural and urban roads count for the high number of deaths and injuries- then why put the cameras on motorways other than the obvious....[&:]
Are they sponsored by the body repair companies and insurance market to up the number of rear end shunts from people stamping on the brakes?[
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On my awareness course, several attendees challenged the instructors on the apparent money-making locations that cameras appear to be put in. The instructors were adamant that there are very strict rules where they can be deployed - which don't appear to apply to motorways - that require prior incidents before they can be sited.
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