My car for sale - SOLD

[IanHighfield]

This is an early post to advise that I am looking for a LHD Non Sunroof manual 911 / 964 / 993 to use as a basis for an RS 'homage'.

I bought my current car in October 2010 and have covered 6K enjoyable miles since, but find myself wanting to build another project car (my previous project was a narrow body 1973 car with 2.7RS engine)

As a basis for that project, I want a LHD car and ideally a non sunroof model with sound body but otherwise I am happy to considering those with worn out brakes, suspension etc.

I am in no hurry to sell, but believe my car is very desirable for the following reasons :-

1992 Registration (1993 Model Year) so sorted earlier engine problems and rear 4 piston brakes, Cup alloys, tear dop mirrors etc. all as standard
Midnight Blue with Black Sports electric / heated leather interior - the best combination
77K miles with every invoice, MOT and Tax Disk from new in a PCGB ring binder
Fully stamped service book
Sunroof, Air Con and Rear Wiper
Onboard Computer
Clubsport Steering Wheel
Full glass out respray at 911 Bodyshop by Jaz in Wembley and no rust at all
RS anti roll bars and Bilstein B6 Sport dampers with Eibach springs (new springs coming and will be fitted to raise the car slightly to RS +5mm)
Correct RS rear eccentric adjusters allowing for more -ve camber
Serviced at Tuthills (72K) and new rear driveshaft gaiter just fitted.
New indicator / headlamp column switch by steering wheel
New rear blower motor
New heater servo
etc. etc.

There is a gallery here :-

http://s124.photobucket.com/albums/p33/Highfield_Photos/1-964%20C2/External/General%20External/

The car and I were featured a couple of editions back in 911 Porsche World - that is me in the You & Yours section sat in front of the car.

I am open to sensible offers around £22K or a p/x as above for my next project.

Ian

 

[Steve Brookes]

So, I see the temptation turned out to be too great for you! [] A LHD C2 coupe with no sunroof is going to be a hard beast to find I think. Personally I'd stick with RHD because it's more user friendly in the UK and quite possibly better on clockwise circuits that we mostly have here because surely the weight of the driver helps balance the car? BUT I can see that the pedal offset doesn't suit everyone and I can understand why you wouldn't want to ruin the value of your current 964, which is a great example. So all the very best of luck to you Ian []

 

[RichardLW]

What about the one Carreraboy has for sale at Specialist Cars . I was very interested in this one but have decided that the GT3 is the more practical car for me at the moment. If Des reads this, sory I didn't get back to you but have lost your mobile number.

 

[h_____]

ORIGINAL: Steve Brookes So, I see the temptation turned out to be too great for you! [] A LHD C2 coupe with no sunroof is going to be a hard beast to find I think. Personally I'd stick with RHD because it's more user friendly in the UK and quite possibly better on clockwise circuits that we mostly have here because surely the weight of the driver helps balance the car? BUT I can see that the pedal offset doesn't suit everyone and I can understand why you wouldn't want to ruin the value of your current 964, which is a great example. So all the very best of luck to you Ian []

Ian, if you are going for an RS homage / rep, dont discount getting the C2 you want and having the roof swapped. My local Porsche garage have done this to their own car, and its pretty impressive, not as hard as you think, and allows you great access to put a cage in at the same time. PM me if you want to talk to them. Additionally, I'd say get a LHD. Much bigger market, much better for race cars, if its a track car it should be corner weighted anyway. Good luck and keep us all posted.

 

[IanHighfield]

Richard / Hugh My car now sold to a fellow DDK Member and deposit taken, so yes I am now on the lookout for LHD. Des and I have conversed on his car, but with the work needed and the repaint I am not quite ready for the full cost of that ay the moment, but it is a very good spec. to start from. Hugh - I see Nick Moss can also do sunroof delete with a carbon panel but I would be interested in your local contact as well. Give me a little time to ponder Ian

 

[Steve Brookes]

ORIGINAL: h_____ Additionally, I'd say get a LHD. Much bigger market, much better for race cars, if its a track car it should be corner weighted anyway.

I know for sure that Ian is set on LHD but why is it better for race cars? Most of the PCGB champs cars are RHD. Same goes for the Porsches raced in the CSCC series. LHD is only a bigger market if building a car with the consideration of selling it later to Europe. While the majority of 964RSs in the UK are LHD, the same cannot be said of normal 964s....LHD versions are very thin on the ground these days.

 

[IanHighfield]

Steve - LHD are indeed very thin on the ground - must have all gone back to Europe, as years ago when I had a LHD 3.2 there were lots around ! Good point though on the race car thing as indeed many are RHD here, but Porsche Cup cars etc. always eem to be LHD - maybe more LHD countries to sell to ? For me it is about getting the pedal offset sorted and the more natural LHD for an RS Rep - personal preference on pedal position really - but the cost may stop this idea - the pedal offset came through from the SC to the 993, and I think it was sorted for the 996 model ? Ian

 

[RLambert]

Both my 911 and 964 race cars have been LHD and the seating position if definitely better. I seem to be quicker round left hand bends than the RHD cars but then perhaps I lose a bit on the right hand bends. The biggest thing is when you come to sell. I had loads of enquiries for my 3.0 Carrera from Europe and it eventually went to Italy to be used in rallying. You get a better price too.

 

[Steve Brookes]

ORIGINAL: IanHighfield Steve - LHD are indeed very thin on the ground - must have all gone back to Europe, as years ago when I had a LHD 3.2 there were lots around ! Good point though on the race car thing as indeed many are RHD here, but Porsche Cup cars etc. always eem to be LHD - maybe more LHD countries to sell to ? For me it is about getting the pedal offset sorted and the more natural LHD for an RS Rep - personal preference on pedal position really - but the cost may stop this idea - the pedal offset came through from the SC to the 993, and I think it was sorted for the 996 model ? Ian

Totally agree on the pedal position, especially if the RHD offset causes you discomfort. I've not found it to be a problem which is probably down to me being a short a**e [] I would think all the iterations of cup cars are LHD because they were/are built for one make race series in relatively small numbers. Apart from the need to keep them identical, it just wouldn't make economic sense to make 2 or 3 dozen right hookers for a GB cup series. When I started looking for a 964 nearly five years ago, I recall seeing a good number of LHD cars for sale but I guess they have steadily migrated home over recent years. You could always make Richard an offer for his race car []

 

[h_____]

Pleased to hear its sold! That was quick. Good for you. As for LHD, I'm sure there is an element of subjective opinion, and what people can get hold off. LHD always feels more intuitive on track, seating position makes or breaks cars for me. I do also think that selling back into Europe is a great way to go long term. Also, as said fi you are making an RS homage / rep - would you want to do it on a RHD if you had a choice? Just my opinion.

 

[IanHighfield]

Steve - we have discussed off line and in my view it is that I am 6' 3" and at that height I just don't feel 'right' with the pedal offset and sunroof. The Gent that is buying it is more your height and had to raise the seat right up and move it forward - I could hardly get in to get the seat back I have only been on track in LHD cars and so I have no experience of track days as a driver in RHD. hugh it is a double edged sword - LHD are worth more on the continent, but that is where most are - I have been offered a few but the £/Euro exchange is just killing that for me right now. Perhaps I need to talk to Des again and see if we can come up with something. Ian

 

[Steve Brookes]

I know what you're saying Ian, hence why I was agreeing above that the offset doesn't suit all. I too have watched and chuckled at people trying to get in my seat when I leave it in my normal driving position [] That Des is a canny lad....Andrew's car generated a lot of interest when I advertised it for him but Des was the only one to see its future potential.

 

[Steve Brookes]

I don't know how big a job it would be to convert a tip to a manual but if it's doable, what about this? http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2900068.htm

 

[IanHighfield]

ORIGINAL: Steve Brookes I don't know how big a job it would be to convert a tip to a manual but if it's doable, what about this? http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2900068.htm

It might be doable (need to search on Rennlist) but it also has a sunroof so strike 2 - thanks for the link though. Ian

 

[Talat]

ORIGINAL: IanHighfield

ORIGINAL: Steve Brookes I don't know how big a job it would be to convert a tip to a manual but if it's doable, what about this? [link=http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2900068.htm]http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2900068.htm[/link]

It might be doable (need to search on Rennlist) but it also has a sunroof so strike 2 - thanks for the link though. Ian

It's only do-able if you can buy the bits cheap (and I mean dirt cheap). I looked into this for a non-sunroof car and even then it wasn't really viable. There was a LHD C4 for around £10K on PH a few weeks ago - these types of cars do crop up every now and then but you have to be patient.

 

[h_____]

Certainly easier to swap the sunroof out - seriously thats the way forward!

 

[jason]

Ian if you are going to build from scratch sort of thing and that is going to include a repaint then taking out a sunroof is no biggie in the scheme of things....

 

[Steve Brookes]

ORIGINAL: Talat It's only do-able if you can buy the bits cheap (and I mean dirt cheap). I looked into this for a non-sunroof car and even then it wasn't really viable. There was a LHD C4 for around £10K on PH a few weeks ago - these types of cars do crop up every now and then but you have to be patient.

Talat, are you referring to C4 conversion or Tip conversion? The reason I'm asking is that I know you were once looking at converting your Celebration but did you look into converting a Tip aswell?

 

[IanHighfield]

Some many options, and Jason I hoped to keep it more conservative in approach, using the car and it spending short periods of time off the road as required to do it in phases - don't want it done too quickly do we, else it will be time to sell again Maybe I should punt for this and make an RSR rep !!!!! http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Porsche-964-Turbo-LHD-1993-/140565963600#ht_1037wt_1141 Anyone know it ? Ian

 

[Talat]

ORIGINAL: Steve Brookes

ORIGINAL: Talat It's only do-able if you can buy the bits cheap (and I mean dirt cheap). I looked into this for a non-sunroof car and even then it wasn't really viable. There was a LHD C4 for around £10K on PH a few weeks ago - these types of cars do crop up every now and then but you have to be patient.

Talat, are you referring to C4 conversion or Tip conversion? The reason I'm asking is that I know you were once looking at converting your Celebration but did you look into converting a Tip aswell?

Tip - I looked into most options when I was looking to source a car