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cbs

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Have recently bought 95 Carrera 2 60k sitting on 18" alloys and Continental tyres .Front end does not seem to be as anchored to the road as I thought it would be I am coming from 85 Carrera .Thinking of wheel alighment check and geomentry check but not from OPC.Would someone know what the settings/readings /degrees should be???
Would be cool if my hopefully new found info would match whatever the still to be selected EXPERT tells me he has done!!!!!!
Tyre pressures approx 35 lbs front and 40 lbs rear!

CBS
 
Check out Chris Franklin at Center Gravity. He has both the equipment and the knowledge to do the job correctly.

Cheers,
 
That response was quick thank you,should have mentioned I m in N Ireland we have the technology however the experts are a bit light on the ground hence request for "numbers.degrees"or whatever...
Cheers.
 
check out the technical bit on the 993 register as there may be some stuff in there.

What setting do you have now anyway?
 
Thank you had a look around 993 registrar without success and I would have no idea what the settings are would like to think that they would be close to standard whatever that would be!
CBS
 
Charles,
Give Chris a ring or drop him an email.
Chris has a mobile setup with the most amazing trailer for doing the work on. He will probably be able to recommend someone over in Ireland who could do the work for you.
Cheers,
 
Another big thumbs up for Chris Franklin, for anyone looking for suspension/geometry work. He did a stellar job for me when I had my S2000 (following a recommendation from a former S2000 owner who defected to Porkdom).

He's such so enthusiastic about what he does and is desperately keen to not only do a good job but also to explain to you what he is doing as he does it.

Not much help for the OP in NI, admittedly, but as Fred says Chris may be able to recommend someone.
 
I came to Porsches from BMW's which go around corners on rails and I found the front end of my C2S distinctly 'vague'. But after getting the geometry sorted it was driving as I expected a Porsche to drive. The geometry on these cars does go out and it is not always noticable until it becomes bad. If you ever fit new tyres all round you definitely want to get it done or your expensive new tyres will not wear very evenly.
Cheers
Peter
 
A thank you to all who replied, am going to have a full alignment carried out in the very near future.As my pride and joy (95 Carrera 2) sits on 18" alloys would a top strut brace make a big difference and if so how much or would this be a waste of money?????
C B S..
 
I had to take the 18" turbo alloys off my 993 C2 as it was all but undriveable on UK badly maintained roads. Felt as though it was going to chuck me into the hedge at speed. OPC did a full suspension check but only cure was to go for smaller diameter wheels. The 18" look great but ruin the handling. Porsche spent 7 years developing the 993 suspension and all testing was done with 16" wheels. Consider going for 17" as a compromise or live with the "no go showboat" look as the Yanks call it. Strut brace will not work (tried it) - the tyres and wheels are part of the suspension design so muck about with it at your peril!
 
You should find the technical info that you need in Adrian Streather's book: Porsche 993 The Essential Companion. Good luck!

Roddy
 
I had the same feeling in mine, ive got 18's and i found that lowering the tyre pressures made a great difference
36 back and 32 front,
it works well for me, one can but only try
sam
 
Still confused am beginning to think it is really the large wheels,am using this ramble to see if my status has been changed from non member to PCGB member,too wet to do anything outside anyway!Shall reduce tyre pressures and try that.
CBS
 
Thanks for the tips have had a look and I am not much wiser re The Rack Brace too much information for a Phillistine like me.My 95 C2 has C Nos wpozzz99zss315938.with 18"alloys.
Should my machine have this rack brace,no point looking for something which is not there ??
Would my motor benefit from one of these assuming it does not have one?
How much would this cost,where does one get a brace and is it an easy fitment??
Have also discovered that one of my rear tyres is leaking air and settlles around 25 lbs approx.
Shall be monitoring pressures closely from here on in!!!!

All advice,hints,tips,gratefully rceived.

CBS


 
I've had the same problem which I reported a while ago and got a range of advice. I decided to sit on it a while to make a better understanding of what is happening. However I have now decided to get the Geometry checked I have 2 options a local specialist Red Line Racing who will charge just over £200 and advertise in the Porsche Post as "we currently have the most advanced and accurate 4 wheel computer alignment system in the UK, as used by the factory motorsport team" or a relativly new performance specialist (2yr old ish) A1 Automotive who are a UK approved builder of the South African chassy GT40 who charge £35/hr which will collate to £35 for the examination then £35/hr after that for any mechanical work required to max 3hrs. Dont know how high tech their geometry checking machine is, but I have seen their work shop which is immaculate and they turn out a very high spec excellently finished GT40, they also work on a range of performance cars, however they do not know the setting requirements, but Maurice has stated that he has it available. Any help please, no idea how much this kind of thing should cost or which option to go for, just cant get my head round the price diffrence.
 
Well thanks to all who responded I have slowly ,very slowly been following up recomendations as to who I was going to get to carry out a 4 wheel alignment on my pride and joy.It really is amazing what you can pick up from having a conversation in person provided you stick to the subject and listen very carefully.You can dismiss some "experts" quite quickly.
Anyway had my 4 wheel alignment carried out this morning in Belfast .Had several conversations before booking appointment,does work for local OPC was delighted to meet the very civil owner in person and admire his very smart Beetle.(last 993 he had worked on was the previous day)
Result.......Only had time today for 40 minute drive and yes there is a difference I can feel a good difference. WELL PLEASED.(front end was toeing in ,camber angle incorrect on passenger rear etc.)
Was wondering if bottom and top front brace would make any differnce and at what money? or should I leave well enough alone!!!
 
Have also discovered that one of my rear tyres is leaking air and settlles around 25 lbs?? approx.
Shall be monitoring pressures closely from here on in!!!!

No wonder your car is trying to jump into the hedge[:)]! Lowering the pressures overall definitely helps, but obviously vast differences in pressure in any one tyre won't help your cause!
 
The front end of my turbo had not felt as planted as I had wanted it to be. While having my front diff changed, at bob watsons, he found out that the front arms had absolutly had it. The car was all over the place. My god its a different car now. If anyones 993 has these symptoms its worth checking the front arms out.
 
Hi all, I also have (until today) a car with 'vague' steering. I recently bought a 993 Targa and it didnt feel right at all; it wallowed and also tramlined and bump steered a lot, which is pretty frightening on a fast motorway when it wants to change lane at the slightest ripple.

I knew that a previous owner had added H&R lowering springs and the Billstein shocks. Its apparently quite a popular suspension mod so I was surprised that it was playing up so badly and went along to an indy to take a look. He immediately said that the car was too low and the only way to cure it was to replace the springs with originals.
I found the original invoice in the file from the supplier, Carnewal, so I contacted them to see what they thought. Gert asked me what pressures I was running, told him as per the handbook, and he said to drop 2psi maximum all round. Tried it out and immediately stopped the bump steer (cheers Gert, saved me a wad of £££s there!).

To cure the wallowy vaguey bit I went to RGA Porsche this morning and left the car there whilst i took the dog for a walk. Came back and was told that whomever had last done the alignment had set extreme camber for track as per RS and it was massively toeing out (wtf? imagine trying to walk in that stance!) and that the steering wheel wasnt even centred!

They reset the toe-in and the car is transformed beyond belief; it feels a ton lighter, turns in sharply and is really responsive and nimble. I cannot believe that the car had a full inspection by a very well renowned indy and they missed the fact that it was setup like a dog. On the other hand, in my ignorance I had test driven it, bought it, drove it for a month whilst still making excuses all the time. Its my first 911 and id heard about understeer, yadda yadda and so wasnt really sure how they handled thus what to expect, so I still drove it like a loon and had a whale of a time.

Now, having experienced a badly setup 911, I can appreciate what people say when they stress the importance of alignment and geometry in these fantastic cars. Mine is, at last, fantastic. And also no hard feelings to the garage I bought the car from; he told me it was a solid motor and ive just had it dynod - almost the same bhp and torque as it left the factory 10yrs ago and now it handles as solid as rock i intend to enjoy it to the full.
 

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