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sue11sam

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Hi Guys,

need a new battery for the car, what are we using these days? I have used my ctec charger for 6 years plus (not sure how old the battery was when I started) but now its given up the ghost, one of the drawbacks of using these conditioners is that you do not really know when your battery is dying, car always starts on the button, park the car for a few hours and then Shrove tuesday has arived!!
 
There was a recent thread on this topic. I just fitted a Bosch S5007 to my 993. Eurocarparts have them. Lolbert
 
I've just bought a Bosch Silver HSB010 (74mAH) from Halfords. They took £15 off their price to match Euro Car Parts: £99.
 
ORIGINAL: sue11sam .... one of the drawbacks of using these conditioners is that you do not really know when your battery is dying, car always starts on the button, park the car for a few hours and then Shrove tuesday has arived!!
Yes - I've been thinking that too. My Ctec never switches from the "half battery" symbol the the "full battery" - which makes me worry the battery is in a poor state and only really starting the car because either at home on the charger or been parked at the end of a long journey for max of a couple of days. Perhaps I'll try leaving it and seeing how long it retains the charge. Anyone else's Ctec stuck on "half" symbol?
 
I've used an Accumate since 2000 on a 944, 3.2 IB and latterly on my 993 and would have to say that it appears to be very sensitive to the condition of the battery. I know the battery on the 993 is quite new but the Accumate still shows (by the series of lights) the various stages of charge/discharge when I've used the car or been working on it in the garage. This has involved disconnecting the Accumate and sometimes just using the interior lights or some other part of the electrics. The device reacts and displays what's going on accordingly. I suppose I'm going to have problems with it now as the Law of Sod takes over!
 
ORIGINAL: Mark Elder
ORIGINAL: sue11sam .... one of the drawbacks of using these conditioners is that you do not really know when your battery is dying, car always starts on the button, park the car for a few hours and then Shrove tuesday has arived!!
Yes - I've been thinking that too. My Ctec never switches from the "half battery" symbol the the "full battery" - which makes me worry the battery is in a poor state and only really starting the car because either at home on the charger or been parked at the end of a long journey for max of a couple of days. Perhaps I'll try leaving it and seeing how long it retains the charge. Anyone else's Ctec stuck on "half" symbol?
My ctek was getting into the green, but my battery was still only showing 12.4 volts , the battery is at least 8 years old, and despite the best efforts of my brilliant ctek charger, and the undoubted quality of the Exide battery, I have changed it. Peace of mind really. Will tell you in my next post what I fitted !!
 
Update on the battery, I have fitted a Halfords HCB096 calcium battery(I am informed made by varta)4 year warranty,£106.99 retail, and with my Trade card, £64.63 nett[;)]
 
Hi Mark, regarding your ctek never showing full charge You may find you are draining a little bit more power than your ctek is putting into the battery, so your battery is never completely charging. Ctek chargers only have a small output. Try disconnecting your battery earth strap, then charging your battery, it reaches full charge on your ctek, then you know its current drain, which you probably need to find out why and what is draining it. A 993 should I think, use around 0.5 amps. But if your battery is still not reaching full charge,even when disconnect from the car, then it probably means your battery is knackered. Regards
 
ORIGINAL: sue11sam Update on the battery, I have fitted a Halfords HCB096 calcium battery(I am informed made by varta)4 year warranty,£106.99 retail, and with my Trade card, £64.63 nett[;)]
That really is some reduction Sue - where can I get this card?[8|]
 
Aaah thats the tricky bit, you need to be in the trade, or get to know your Halfords manager. I suppose you could just ask? suppose you could suggest you are starting a car restoration business (sounds pretty close to the mark [;)]) and you will be placing your custom at their door with a little help from them
 
Hi, This thread makes interesting reading. I have owned my 993 for six years and it is always connected to my Ctek when not in use. I have no way of knowing how old it might be, so I am inclined to change it as a precaution before setting out on my continental tour. I have had experience of sudden death which is no joke if you are out in the sticks. My car is service by my local OPC and they always report I have a non standard battery fitted. It is a Bosch of some sort. Can EuroParts identify an official battery and supply? Thanks, Hanhams81
 
ORIGINAL: hanhams81 Hi, This thread makes interesting reading. I have owned my 993 for six years and it is always connected to my Ctek when not in use. I have no way of knowing how old it might be, so I am inclined to change it as a precaution before setting out on my continental tour. I have had experience of sudden death which is no joke if you are out in the sticks. My car is service by my local OPC and they always report I have a non standard battery fitted. It is a Bosch of some sort. Can EuroParts identify an official battery and supply? Thanks, Hanhams81
your OPC can supply 'standard' battery, but at what cost? I do know what battery that most have used, and I will post it up for you when I have looked it up. The one I have fitted is almost the exact same spec, but at a much lower price!
 
Porsche will supply you a Moll 74amp/hr battery for £115 + vat, they are poor compared with Bosch, get a Bosch S5007, we have them for £78 but cant ship!
 
Porsche don't make batteries, they re-badge others, most probably Bosch and then add 50-100% for the decal.
 
I have almost always selected Bosch batteries when there was a choice and they have given excellent service in a number of different cars. Batteries can be tested in a number of ways. i) Drop-test - needs the equipment to do it, but if you have it or can find a friendly garage that will test your battery you can tell there and then if it's any good or not. ii) Fully charge it (or leave it on charge for 36 hours or so) and then see what the voltage is an hour after ending the charging, 6 hours, 24 hours and 48 hours. It should stay above 12.65V - any less after 48 hours and it's discharging internally. Regarding current use while the car is not in use, you need to connect an Ammeter (as distinct from a Voltmeter) between one of the battery terminals and its disconnected cable (i.e. disconnect one of the battery leads and "bridge" the gap with the Ammeter). Most batteries in our cars are around the 70 Amp-hour capacity, which broadly means they'll deliver 70 Amps for one hour, or 1 Amp for 70 hours, or something in between. Given that I would expect a car to be able to be left for at least three weeks without being charged and still be capable of starting, this would argue that typical power conumption for a car that's switched off and just sat there should be around 0.1A or less. Certainly my 944S2 used less than 0.1A when this test was applied, at least after I found out why the discharge rate was unacceptably high. If you do find your consumption is over 0.1A, pull the fuses one at a time, replacing the preceding one before pulling the next one. When the consumption drops, you have located the circuit (or at least one of the circuits) where power is being consumed.
 
Good advice Nick. On the 964 (maybe the 993 uses the same) the heater/fan/air conditioning unit is wired directly from the battery so it is live even after the key is removed. This baby has been sited as a main drain culprit. A fix is to disconnect the power line and feed it from an accessory supply like that for the radio. That way it's only live when the ignition is on.
 
The 964 and 993 climate units are very similar, and I imagine both also control the blower fan in the engine compartment that can run after the ignition is switched off. On that basis, I would have to assume that they are electrically live even with the ignition off.
 
Hello, I'm new to the forum, looking for a new battery for my 95 N 993. I just wondered whether anybody had tried the Yuasa Car Battery, which is being sold on a well known on line shopping website for about £50? Thanks.
 

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