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New engine needed

DavidL

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I have been offered a 90G S2 that has damaged a piston and needs a short engine (everything except the head right?). Assuming the rest of the car is ok, and I haven't seen it yet, what would it be worth and what would it cost to have it made roadworthy again? Is it worth trying to have a few "fast road" mods done whilst there is the opportunity, even fitting a turbo engine instead - what do you think?

David Leighton
 
That sounds similar to my car when I got it. It needed a new short engine. I got one from EMC for £1700 + VAT.

That was for an S. An S2 might be slightly more, but I'd still expect to be paying under 2 grand + VAT. That's assuming that you fit it yourself as well. If you get them to do everything, you could probably add another 500-750 quid (but that's a guess).

As for what the car is worth in that state? Look at the rest of the car and decide what it would be worth if it was a runner with a good engine. Subtract about 3 grand from that price, and that's the most you should pay. The good thing is that you'll have a nice brand new engine in the car, rather than something with 100 and something thousand miles on it.

While you're at it, you could have the engine balanced and a few other bits and bobs done. It all depends on what you want the car for. If you're going to want to go for mods at some point, now is the time to do it, as you'll be either buying the uprated parts instead of the standard ones, or you'll be paying just for the engineering work to modify parts, rather than removing and modifying them.

I wouldn't think it's worth fitting a turbo engine though. There are plenty of other bits that you would also need to change, so you'd probably be cheaper to just go and buy a turbo in the first place.

I considered putting an S2 engine in mine, but it would have cost an extra grand for the S2 specific bits. The difference between and S and an S2 is a lot less than the difference between an S2 and a turbo, so I'd expect that you would be spending a lot more than a grand.
 
I might be interested in the damaged S2 block and crank if you buy the car; let me know.
 
ORIGINAL: JamesH

..........I wouldn't think it's worth fitting a turbo engine though. There are plenty of other bits that you would also need to change, so you'd probably be cheaper to just go and buy a turbo in the first place....

I agree, and it would be an absolute so'n'so to get insured as well.

To buy a car with a dead engine the rest of it needs to be in very good condition. The car needs to be very, very, cheap. The trouble with the car being dead is you have no real way of checking any of the other bits (gearbox etc) so you are buying at a risk. The price, and potential gain, needs to be such to make that risk worth while.
 
That's the state my car was in when I got it. The rest of it was very good. I got it from the original owner, who had every single receipt. He'd replaced the gearbox not long before, and he'd had it regularly serviced by a respected specialist, who I also spoke to before I got the car.

Oh, and it was a very good price too [:D]
 
Have a good look around for a new engine first - 3 litre engines can be very hard to find. It took me ages to find a 3 litre block for my Turbo project and then all of a sudden I had about 3 leads in a week and ended up with a complete 2.7 engine (same block) for £600

Depending how bad this block is, it may be worth looking to have it rebored 1mm oversize and just buy new pistons, or even have it re-sleeved so you can use the existing ones (plus one new one)

Speak to Barry Hart at Hartech, it seems he has a small treasure trove of 944 parts and engines but doesn't really advertise it
 
I was originally thinking of having my block overbored, but I found it impossible to get hold of the oversized pistons.
 
I beleive that replacement / blueprinted engines in various capacities will be available early next year, as I understand it they will be complete units ready to slot in and what I have seen so far is very impressive. Will keep you informed when I know more,
Tony
 
Thats one of the variables to be decided that means more info wont be released yet [;)], I believe they understand the market (the cars and the owners) and will be competitive, and from what I have seen ensuring the quality of the final product is a priority. If my engine is such that once the head is off it makes sense to rebore it I am much happier now than I would have been 4 months ago.
Tony
 
That makes a lot of sense. There is no point in trying to charge £7k if the car isn't worth that much (or you could get a Jag instead [;)])
 

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