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Matt

Matt

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was thinking the other day about getting a new set of rims for the RS, and was disappointed at the lack of suitable wheels.

i then got on to wondering whether it would be possible to get a replica of the mag rims made - same sizes & offsets, same markings on the outside of the rim, and in magnesium (or some other alloy) in order to be the same weight (or lighter).

soooo - a few questions to the assorted experience out there..

1. has anybody got any contacts/ideas where to start on this sort of quest?
2. anyone be interested in a new set of rims if they became available?

i'm not saying i'll defo get to chasing this up - but could be an interesting project
 
Steel Cup 1's only 10.6 kg heavier per set and a fraction of the cost.......that's 0.5 sec a lap slower round the "Ring"!!!
 
But surely the issue is the unsprung weight? 10.6kg is a fairly useful saving. You'd notice that on Caterham[;)]
 
I would probably be interested, especially as I have just noticed that one of my spare ones has cracked. Worryingly the crack has originated from what appeares to be a bit of cosmetic corrosion on the outer edge of the inside rim. No mechanical/physical abuse. I suggest that anyone still using rs mags checks them very carefully.

I can get new Mille Miglia replicas but they are very heavy. I have them on my 911 SC & they ruin the handling. It feels like it has a bag of cement strapped to each corner.

Pete
 
would be nice if the wheels became available in exact replica form or re-avialable from Porsche at a realistic (that read cheap for me!) price. There are alternatives but none of them are cheap. BBS center locks are nice but so is the price as are Manthey's new mag wheels (possibly available in 18 ??) or maybe the Dymags that Tim Chandler is running or the later 3 pices speedlines a l'a 993 RS all of which are equally expensive.
The 986 boxster's 17" wheel is according to the weight chart i've seen banded about on here of similar weight ? but the rears are 1/2 " narrower and you can't fit them if you have big rear spacers without removing the spacers and the longer studs!!!!
 
Love a set, but as Laurence points out 'realistic' pricing is key. The Carbon/Mag Dymags are tops but ouch that price!
Spoke to Dymag some time ago about 'normal' mags in their standard pattern and proper RS size.
If I remember correctly price was around £500 per wheel + vat and a minimum of 4 sets.

Getting genuine pattern replicas may not be approved of in Stuttgart - the MM alloys are good but the're not quite accurate in pattern or offset.

Isn't this an area where the clubs 'special' relationship with the factory should pay dividends[:D] Mind you I did say 'realistic'

Tony
 
How does one set about asking the question ?

The originals were manufactured by STI ?

The alternative is that one is asked to pay more and more for wheels which intinsically are becoming worth less and less.
 
so Mel - can the club have the discussion with porsche about this..?

what are the dymag wheels like - never seen them

are STI still trading? put into google i get endless references to those terrible subaru type automobiles much favoured by people who wear baseball caps...[;)]
 
ORIGINAL: Matt

so Mel - can the club have the discussion with porsche about this..?

what are the dymag wheels like - never seen them

are STI still trading? put into google i get endless references to those terrible subaru type automobiles much favoured by people who wear baseball caps...[;)]
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I thought the originals were made by SM. I dread to think what Google would cough up if you typed the letters S & M into it[:eek:]
 
ORIGINAL: Matt

are STI still trading? put into google i get endless references to those terrible subaru type automobiles much favoured by people who wear baseball caps...[;)]
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I never wore a cap !
 

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ORIGINAL: Matt

are STI still trading? put into google i get endless references to those terrible subaru type automobiles much favoured by people who wear baseball caps...[;)]
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I never wore a cap !
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Bet the scrote who nicked it did though.

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I too have considered this wheel question as the original mags are too liable to corrosion.

An RS is about light weight, therefore adding heavy replacement rims is not on. The unsprung weight gain has an effect of something like 5 times on the cars dynamic behaviour. I cannot explain the calculation for this, but I can believe it.

The Dymag rims are nice in terms of weight, they do not look too special IMO, plus they are Magnesium in the centre, so the same corrosion issue may arise, although the "Rim" section is worse than the "spoke" section for corrosion. I could maybe be persuaded if they were a sensible price.

How many folks would consider it?

George

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964rs

 
The MM replica's are 0.6kg heavier than standard Cup 1 wheels.

The mags are 2kg lighter at the front and 3kkg lighter at the back than the Cup 1's.

The mags are not really that light at 8.5kg front and 9.3kg rear
 
Jason, thanks for the figures, - the MM's are a good copy rim if only 0.6kg heavier. I did not know they were that close.
However the Magnesium material takes the weight a significant % below the Cup 1.
With weight saving, its a relatively big saving (and especially when multiplied to reflect unsprung weight) and the thin glass, Ali bonnet, stripped loom, etc are all small savings but together they combine to make a lighter car.

But the mother of all weight savings must be the flywheel.

George
 
i have emailed ats wheels to see if it was them who originally supplied..still waiting for a reply however
 
Very, Very interested should some kind of light weight replica become available.

I like the BBS wheels but still not 100% sure they look right on the car esp. as they are on the expensive side.
 
And I am told they no longer make the mags.

They went out of business a couple of years ago and have been resurrected ---

 
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