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new to 964 (an escapee from 996...)

patch

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Dear All, a compromise has to happen...

I have a fantastic Dec '02 996 C4S bought one year ago. I have put 16,000 commuting miles on it into Central London since then. That is a tough ask for a great car although it has not missed a beat. The compromise is this. I am going to buy a secondhand Prius (ouch!!) which will save me in the region of £80 per week into town on con charge and fuel costs. Consequently I will have to sell the 996 and am looking at this car from 911Virgin as a replacement weekend car (scroll down to white cab at http://www.911virgin.com/stock.htm). I know it's not original in lots of ways and I will put a new roof on it. Any thoughts as to my sanity, my choice, things to watch out for or the price please?? Particularly interested in your views on the wheels which are 18" and I see various places saying they are too big...
All the best
Des
 
Patch,I've got 18inchers on my 964 without any problems,I have read that they weren't recommended due to heat build up with them running close to the exhaust,someone with more knowledge than me may confirm that but they look so good it would reduce me to tears if I had to take them off.
 
The car looks to be a good price and given Henry's reputation I'd say it would be a good buy. Get him to have the car checked over at Jaz before you decide on the Bug price though. Any issues that come up will be sorted. Additions such as the teardrop mirrors and 18" wheels only add to the appeal.

As mentioned above, the official line is that 18" wheels are not approved/allowed/supported on the 964 (other than on the Turbos) but the reasoning has largely been lost over the years. One argument is, as mentioned above, the proximity of the left rear wheel to the exhaust, but other stories cite the hub failures on the Cup cars running racing slicks on 18" Speedline wheels. I've had 18" wheels on my 964 for more than 5 years with no issues and I know many 964 owners who have done the same.

If you are replacing the roof you might consider replacing it with a 993-style roof as it's considered a better design and is a fairly straightforward swap. Dave Nunn at Southbound Trimmers (www.southboundtrimmers.com) is the expert.

Regards

Dave
 
Thanks for the quick response. I am feeling more confident about it already. I have bought two 996's from Tom and can't recommend him and Virgin enough.

Thanks for the editing!
Des
 
I don't want to put you off 964s of course and look forward to hearing your thoughts of how it compares to the 996.....however, you need to bear in mind that the difference in money that you sell the 996 for and buy the 964 for, could easily be eaten up fixing issues that crop up with a car that is quite a bit older.
 
Please don't buy the Prattus.

Please, please DO NOT buy it.

Get yourself a diesel instead, it will use less fuel and you won't look a prat either [8|]

A Focus springs to mind, it will so much more rewarding to drive, if you need more room then a Mundano.

Moderator - are Prattus owners allowed on this forum?
 
Good point Steve... it's the same amount again, so I hope the hell not to spend it all on fixes! I would be very interested to hear your thoughts on what are the most often seen issues that can crop up though.
Best
Des
 
Fair shout on the Pratus compared to a decent diesel Colin but 2 grand a year congestion charge almost offsets the shame ;-)
 

ORIGINAL: patch

... 2 grand a year congestion charge almost offsets the shame ;-)

How much of this will you save with the better diesel fuel consumption and what about commuting?

What ever the ads/salesmen/official figures tell you, the reality is way off the claims as has been shown in various magazine articles.

964 ownership will require deep pockets and from my, and various other's, experience, it takes a while to grow on you. Once your hooked though, you'll never look back.

Hope the car search goes well.

BTW I suggest you park the Prattus round the corner from your home.
 
ORIGINAL: patch

Good point Steve... it's the same amount again, so I hope the hell not to spend it all on fixes! I would be very interested to hear your thoughts on what are the most often seen issues that can crop up though.
Best
Des

I think we all have our own experiences of what needs to be done on these cars now that they are at their age so there isn't really a list of common things that need to be replaced. Over the last two years my own personal tally is £4,000 on things that needed to be done (servicing, electrical parts, exhaust repair, brakes refurbished, engine mounts, rust repair, minor oil leaks) and another £4,000 on non essential upgrades (brakes, suspension and interior). Most of these costs are parts only because I've saved a lot of money by doing much of the work myself. However, next on the list is 'engine out' to solve annoying leaks which means sending into an indy and ££££.

While I'm unlikely to get any of this back if I ever sell the car, I can take comfort that it's unlikely to lose any more in depreciation. So one could argue that it's no more expensive to run than a 996 that is likely to depreciate in the coming years. This would apply less to yourself if you keep the C4S which is one of the lowest depreciaters of the 996 models.
 
Whoops - just bought it after a decent run out this afternoon. Thanks for all the contributions on this theme - fingers crossed on escaping the potential bottomless pit!
I'll put a piccy up and register its details in due course. It does have a PCGB sticker on it so I guess we might unearth some history at some point.
All the best
Des
 
ORIGINAL: patch

Whoops - just bought it after a decent run out this afternoon. Thanks for all the contributions on this theme - fingers crossed on escaping the potential bottomless pit!
I'll put a piccy up and register its details in due course. It does have a PCGB sticker on it so I guess we might unearth some history at some point.
All the best
Des

In that case.....congratulations and welcome to the 964 club [:)][:)][:)]
 

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