Newbie Advice Required

[Guest]

Hi to you all...

I cuurently drive a Subaru WR1, this is a limited edition run of 500, circa 325 bhp. It is my fourth Impreza and love it. However I am now looking for a change and have been looking at the Porsche and BMW range.

I have been looking at second hand cars, initially considering the 996 Carrera s / GT3, however following a visit to a local dealer who arranged a test drive in the 997 Carrera s, the car was fantastic, I felt at home. He took me down some lanes so I could see just how good it was, I was very impressed. The Subaru would have had the edge, however, I am looking for a different drive otherwise I would keep the scooby.

I also took out the BMW CSL, first go with the smg box, so to be fair I could not really compare.

To be honest the Porsche would be the preferred car, the Finance guy was not there on Sunday and should be calling me to discuss figures on say a purchase of 70k. Just so I know, can anyone give me an idea of monthly repayment amounts, using the balloon payment method. I could put in 20/25 k as a deposit, say over 3 / 4 years. Not sure if you are able to negotiate with Porsche dealers as you are with other marques.

Any one got any experience of the CSL, is there any particular things I should look out for / ask for when sourcing a car.

By the way Dealer did not seem to want me to consider taking a new car ? I know the waiting list is 12 / 18 months ?

 

[daro911]

ORIGINAL: Millie

By the way Dealer did not seem to want me to consider taking a new car ? I know the waiting list is 12 / 18 months ?

Check your Sunday Times plenty of 05 UK Cars at list and even some 54 Plate few hundred milers at BELOW list ... 12-18 months he is having a laugh

 

[Mark_Bennett]

By the way Dealer did not seem to want me to consider taking a new car ? I know the waiting list is 12 / 18 months ?

He wants you to take a new car, but he also wants to sell you a pre-owned one "whilst you wait for the new one..."[]

 

[Guest]

It will be tricky for anyone here who does not work in finance to put a quote together. However, they can do some great things with the PCP (baloon payment) stuff.... until you look at the total amount repayable.

Don't rule out your bank - I was able to beat Porsche finance's rate through my bank.

I had a UK turbo Impreza (218hp?) from 1998 to 2001 and had it while I also had a 2.7 Boxster (similar hp). Impreza probably quicker in many circumstances but Boxster was way more involving. Now have Carrera S and could probably be left behind by many a well driven scooby to be honest but it isn't always about the absolute fastest time between A and B - it is about the driving experience.

 

[Guest]

I would guess a monthly payment of 600'ish over 3 years, less if over 4 (I think you can even go for 5 years if you want).
I could work it out, but a quick phone call to Porsche is your best bet.

If you use this method, then they are very flexible. You can vary the deposit, the duration and the balloon amount to get to the monthly payments you want. You can also make over payments, if you get bonuses from time to time or have some extra money lying around. This does not reduce the duration, but reduces the balloon amount and significantly reduces the total amount of interest you end up paying. The don't like you to do this every month, but every 6 or 12 months is no problem.
One of the main advantages is that since the delivery times are variable, if you want to replace the car with another one, you can make a few more or a few less payments, while you wait for the new one. There is no need to end the deal after say 36 months, then sort something else out for 2 months coz your new one has been delayed.

They might start off with 12-18 months wait, but I doubt you would need to wait that long. If you can be flexible and also use on of the big dealers (Reading, Guildford, Chiswick), they have additional slots come up. The two times I have done it, I got the cars in 4-5 months from the order, despite the wait being officially 12 months.

BTW, the 996 doesn't come in a Carrera S, only a 4S.
997 Carrera S is rear wheel drive with more power than the regular Carrera, in the 996 the Carrera 4S is 4 wheel drive with the same power as the regular 996 Carrera but the wide Turbo body.

 

[daro911]

ORIGINAL: Millie

Hi to you all...

By the way Dealer did not seem to want me to consider taking a new car ? I know the waiting list is 12 / 18 months ?

Sunday Times:-
997"S" 05 Reg UK Car £List 07968 911911
Camtune 08707 555 911 997 & 997"S" Unregistered available today
997 Unreg in stock today 01243 545 121
997 "S" Unreg List £68.5K 07834 088 997
997 "S" 54/05 700 miles £List 01323 729781
997 & "S" Ex Stock Unreg 01753 892961
997 "S" Available 1st March £70K High Spec 07970 888 008
997"S" 500 Miles £68995 01925 759406

 

[Guest]

Many thanks for your advice.

I have had to phone up the dealer toady as they still have not got back to me with some figures. So hope will have some idea tomorrow.

I will phone some of the cars that you have identified once I know the figs, if they fit.

Subaru is a great car and very quick, the WR1 is alos a nice palce to be, you may be shcoked just how good they have made the cabin. The WR1 was worked on by Prodrive so it is special. But like someone said, it is not just about getting from A to B. My test drive in the 997s really did impress and after all it is a Porsche as well !!

BMW dealer has been on today, up the offer on the WR1 and will split the cost of a set of road tires, as the CSL has a set of cup's on it. I can use the cups if I did track days etc on a spares et of rims.

I hope the 997 figures come out ok as it would be my preferred choice.

 

[Guest]

I heard that BMW are really struggling to sell the CSLs. They dropped the price by 10K and they are still are not moving.
I would stick with the regular M3. I think the running costs over the long term would be cheaper, and the performance advantage is not worth it.
It is interesting that they have come back with a better offer, which backs up what I heard.

 

[pwebb]

Be careful with the Sunday Times cars, most are imports, and you may save time/money to start with, but woe betide if you have a problem with the car that needs the OPC to help. Officially they have to within the warranty period, but a look through some of the past threads on this site indicates that you are treated very differently.
Peter