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Nice Donington gathering last night

Steve Brookes

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It was great to share some track action with you blokes last night - Chris, Jason, Matt and to meet the Gannons and their RS for the first. After the initial deluge the track got better and better as the night went on and all were clearly enjoying themselves.

Pics are now starting to appear on the BaT site:

http://bookatrack.com/-pX?event&926
 
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Boys at play [;)]
 
ORIGINAL: Steve Brookes

It was great to share some track action with you blokes last night - Chris, Jason, Matt and to meet the Gannons and their RS for the first. After the initial deluge the track got better and better as the night went on and all were clearly enjoying themselves.

Pics are now starting to appear on the BaT site:

http://bookatrack.com/-pX?event&926

Hi Steve, I came down with Matt in his 'yellow beast' and was in my black 997GT3. I believe we came across each other on the track during the evening [;)] As you say, fantastic time and from what I could see a good standard of driving exhibited by all. Suprisingly for me, I didnt get black flagged for noise (I have learnt and short shifted down the pit straight but dont tell anyone[:D])

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Hi Glenn, yes indeed I remember the distinctive 'boo' plate as you blasted past me a few times during the evening [8D]. I also met Cunno for the first time who was enjoying himself in the other GT3 that was a negative of yours [:D].

Love that photo of us in formation Chris....we must try harder next time to get all five of the 964 variants in the same shot...just need the evening to not fly by so fast...which they always do when it's so much fun [:)]
 
Thanks to Geoff for taking the photo [;)]

And thanks to you for letting me past --- I thought that Jason had run into the back of me [:D]
 
Apologies to all those who I didn't really get chance to have a good chat to. Having arrived over an hour late due to traffic, the rest of the evening was rather manic to say the least! Some entertaining laps (was a little slippy in places!) were enjoyed however, the highlight being when Tim took my Uncle out....drove it through Coppice sideways and got him to throw up out of the side of the car after only 2 laps! AWESOME![:D] I think someone timed Tim doing a 1.54 (quicker than the Ginetta by 2 seconds) on that 2nd lap....pity the session was red-flagged...would have been interesting to see how quick the car could actually go (pointless timing me as my driving is pretty average[&o] but I do have fun [:)]).
To quote my friend David who was there on his first ever trackday (silver Maseratti)...."mmm, it's certainly entertaining isn't it!"[:)]
 
ORIGINAL: 65 mat

Apologies to all those who I didn't really get chance to have a good chat to. Having arrived over an hour late due to traffic, the rest of the evening was rather manic to say the least! Some entertaining laps (was a little slippy in places!) were enjoyed however, the highlight being when Tim took my Uncle out....drove it through Coppice sideways and got him to throw up out of the side of the car after only 2 laps! AWESOME![:D] I think someone timed Tim doing a 1.54 (quicker than the Ginetta by 2 seconds) on that 2nd lap....pity the session was red-flagged...would have been interesting to see how quick the car could actually go (pointless timing me as my driving is pretty average[&o] but I do have fun [:)]).
To quote my friend David who was there on his first ever trackday (silver Maseratti)...."mmm, it's certainly entertaining isn't it!"[:)]

Funny that Matt, Dave said the same to me when I took him out in the GT3....... as he was trying to push his right foot thru the passenger footwell, before I had started to brake [:)]

g

 
ORIGINAL: 65 mat

the highlight being when Tim took my Uncle out....drove it through Coppice sideways and got him to throw up out of the side of the car after only 2 laps! AWESOME![:D] I think someone timed Tim doing a 1.54 (quicker than the Ginetta by 2 seconds) on that 2nd lap....pity the session was red-flagged...would have been interesting to see how quick the car could actually go (pointless timing me as my driving is pretty average[&o] but I do have fun [:)]).

If you stopped letting Tim nick it off you...you'd get to know it a lot better and soon be beating everyone up [;)]
 

ORIGINAL: 65 mat
Some entertaining laps (was a little slippy in places!) were enjoyed however, the highlight being when Tim took my Uncle out....drove it through Coppice sideways and got him to throw up out of the side of the car after only 2 laps! AWESOME![:D]

[:-] That was rather cruel of you Matt, to send him out with me knowing he'd already been a bit queasy with you! [;)] [:D]

ORIGINAL: 65 mat
I think someone timed Tim doing a 1.54 (quicker than the Ginetta by 2 seconds) on that 2nd lap....pity the session was red-flagged...would have been interesting to see how quick the car could actually go (pointless timing me as my driving is pretty average[&o] but I do have fun [:)]).

Er, yes - just thought I had better point out that the chap doing the timing was a trackday newbie, and a spectator/passenger, not a driver, he hadn't heard the briefing and didn't know timing isn't allowed. We didn't know he had timed anyone until he came and told us the times! [8|]

But... Matt's car would definitely go faster, I reckon a 1:49 or better is possible! I had literally done two laps with Matt's uncle, then came in under a red; then I gave someone else a ride for three laps then I took an instructor colleague of mine, Howard Hunt, for a ride in it and just managed two laps before the chequered flag came out, and it was the second of those two that was timed - first one was an out lap and the last was an in! There very little chance of me really getting dialled into the car,and the track was very 'green' after the earlier downpour, not to mention the damp patch at Coppice!

Did anyone mention the sound it makes? Awesome! [;)]
 
In a strange sort of way Steve I actually enjoy other people driving my cars. Its a kind vehicle voyerism...some times it is fun just to watch![:-]
 

ORIGINAL: timarnold


ORIGINAL: 65 mat
Some entertaining laps (was a little slippy in places!) were enjoyed however, the highlight being when Tim took my Uncle out....drove it through Coppice sideways and got him to throw up out of the side of the car after only 2 laps! AWESOME![:D]

[:-] That was rather cruel of you Matt, to send him out with me knowing he'd already been a bit queasy with you! [;)] [:D]

ORIGINAL: 65 mat
I think someone timed Tim doing a 1.54 (quicker than the Ginetta by 2 seconds) on that 2nd lap....pity the session was red-flagged...would have been interesting to see how quick the car could actually go (pointless timing me as my driving is pretty average[&o] but I do have fun [:)]).

Er, yes - just thought I had better point out that the chap doing the timing was a trackday newbie, and a spectator/passenger, not a driver, he hadn't heard the briefing and didn't know timing isn't allowed. We didn't know he had timed anyone until he came and told us the times! [8|]

But... Matt's car would definitely go faster, I reckon a 1:49 or better is possible! I had literally done two laps with Matt's uncle, then came in under a red; then I gave someone else a ride for three laps then I took an instructor colleague of mine, Howard Hunt, for a ride in it and just managed two laps before the chequered flag came out, and it was the second of those two that was timed - first one was an out lap and the last was an in! There very little chance of me really getting dialled into the car,and the track was very 'green' after the earlier downpour, not to mention the damp patch at Coppice!

Did anyone mention the sound it makes? Awesome! [;)]

So, what does one do with time signatures on photographs ?

The official pics also have them ...
 
Are you suggesting that taking 2 pictures a lap apart at the same place and using the time signitures to get the lap time? I guess they cant stop that, to be honest ifyou want to time with a mobile phone, they cant stop that. If you want to have a GPS datalogger under your dash, they cant really stop that either. And of course they allow video, so you can always download the video and take your times off that.

It is of course hard to get clear laps on trackdays anway. Although it sounds like Tim managed it. I guess all they can do is tell you its banned, and if they catch you doing it, then through you off. What they do want to stop is people trying for a lap time, so using whatever source to get a time, then going out and trying to better it. Not really the trackday spirit, and certainly not in the TDO insurance I believe.

 

ORIGINAL: ChrisW
So, what does one do with time signatures on photographs ?

The official pics also have them ...

Not a lot! [:D] Unless that information could be extracted live at the time and was being used to record lap times, it's not a problem.


ORIGINAL: h_____

Are you suggesting that taking 2 pictures a lap apart at the same place and using the time signitures to get the lap time? I guess they cant stop that, to be honest ifyou want to time with a mobile phone, they cant stop that. If you want to have a GPS datalogger under your dash, they cant really stop that either. And of course they allow video, so you can always download the video and take your times off that.

They can actually stop you using a mobile phone to time; if they catch you they'll throw you (and the car you're timing) off site. Dataloggers are a different matter. So long as the data is downloaded and analysed after the event and is not used for benchmarking or comparison during the day, most TDO's and their insurers are happy with that. Video isn't accurate so it's pointless using it for timing. Most video recorders drop a number of frames - a data/video expert I know reckons that over a 30 minute race distance a video recording can be optimistic to the tune of a whole lap! The software in data logging systems that combine video and data apparently compensates for this, but a standard camcorder will give you an optimistically inaccurate time.

ORIGINAL: h_____
It is of course hard to get clear laps on trackdays anway. Although it sounds like Tim managed it.

I was actually held up twice on that lap! [:D]
 

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