Nitros Oxide, just around the corner!

[rob944s]

I have been thinking about this for quite some time[8|] and i was thinking of maybe using NOS on my 88 944s in the future, A mate of mine will soon be licenced to recharge the bottles and fit it... and he`s work shop is just around the corner. A wet kit jetted for a 35,50 BHP shot on a full throttle switch with no progression maximiser is a very good start, as it would appear to be quicker and easier than MAFs, CHIPS, for BHPs, i was wondering if anyone has used it? Has one fitted? What you have heard about it? and god knows what this thread will do to the more die hard enthuiast[] where subs and base bins, and some times music is considerd to be the devils work..[]

 

[Diver944]

I've never heard of it on a 944 but if you take a look in the 928 forum you will find a wealth of information from Bretts car. The usual caveats apply in that you should make sure your engine is sound in the first place before placing it under any more pressure.

I'm looking forward to seeing your results, how long does a bottle last?

 

[John Sims]

ORIGINAL: rob944s

.......and god knows what this thread will do to the more die hard enthuiast[] where subs and base bins, and some times music is considerd to be the devils work..[]

That'll be me then.

Porsche knew exactly what they were doing 30 years ago and to change anything is a complete abomination.

You'll be fitting spinners and ethnic style door graphics next. []

On the other hand......it sounds like an interesting project and something we have perhaps all thought about but left alone through fear of the unknown. As Paul has also suggested, my main issue is bottle capacity. I have every confidence that NOS would provide a spectacular glory run but can't see that it would be much use on a track day.

A big plus for a Lux though. I have often said that Lux are brilliant cars but lack the grunt if you get a Chav up your bum (not a great picture). NOS would give sufficient boost to frighten them off and leave you alone. [8D]

So in summary - could be an ideal upgrade for a Lux.

 

[944Turbo]

Its a bit fast and the furious, but if you fancy it try it. modern kits are supposed to be much better than the old style hit - I reckon we will all be interested in your progress, might be ideal for low revs in a turbo as well.

One thing that concerns me slightly with Brets car, given the massive size of his nos bottle, is wether it would stay in the boot in the event of an accident, that could be really nasty.

If it was me I would end up inceasing the size of the shot - that means bigger brakes,wheels, lsd etc and probably a replacement engine eventually.

Tony

 

[333pg333]

I'd be interested in the results but maybe over a year or so rather than the first month. Sounds like more of a toy than anything else but I'm prepared to be wrong.

 

[John Sims]

ORIGINAL: 944Turbo

Its a bit fast and the furious, ........

Does that mean you will end up with girlies in short skirts and not much else hanging around the car?

I've got an old SIG water bottle. If Rock were to do me a NOS decal do you think that would work?

 

[924nutter]

....And a complete engine rebuild is just around the corner after next. There is no such thing as a free lunch.

 

[Peter Empson]

ORIGINAL: John Sims

I've got an old SIG water bottle. If Rock were to do me a NOS decal do you think that would work?

Lol! I remembered seeing a Ferrari a few years ago with a silver fire extinguisher in the back covered with NOS stickers. Quite tragic really!

 

[DivineE]

Funnily enough I was just chatting to someone who is a bit of a Nitrous Guru last night. He says that whilst he was testing his old engine to destruction he found that with a 125hp nosil he can empty the bottle with 10mins of continuous use. He also said that 50hp kits are really rather tame and very unlikely to cause problems.

I was asking as I feel it may be necessary on my horrible diesel just to get me around.


Ben

 

[944Turbo]

ORIGINAL: John Sims

ORIGINAL: 944Turbo

Its a bit fast and the furious, ........

Does that mean you will end up with girlies in short skirts and not much else hanging around the car?

I've got an old SIG water bottle. If Rock were to do me a NOS decal do you think that would work?

worth a try, bournemouth has lots of scantily clad girlies out every night if you want to improve the odds - just dont tell brenda I said so

 

[944Turbo]

How much nos could you get in the tanks on the roof, now removed and ready to squeeze into a ?
............

well realisticly probably a large estate car, but one may just fit into a 928 []

Tony

 

[Diver944]

ORIGINAL: DivineE

with a 125hp nosil he can empty the bottle with 10mins of continuous use.

That's not too bad then. If it runs to a linear scale (which I'm sure it won't) then a 50HP nozzle could last 25mins which would at least last two track sessions. Three bottles of NOS a day may be quite a reasonable overhead especially as the setup cost is so low.

A 210bhp lightweight LUX for very little outlay is quite tempting

 

[John Sims]

There does seem to be the makings of "a cunning plan" there.

Seemingly, two bottles would give you enough for an evenings entertainment on the track.

I have always liked the 968 but couldn't see the point over a Turbo. However, if you could get sufficient duration out of a bottle of NOS that might be an even better option.

Tony's idea of putting NOS in a Turbo is just outragious......get on to it straight away.

 

[rob944s]

ORIGINAL: Diver944

I've never heard of it on a 944 but if you take a look in the 928 forum you will find a wealth of information from Bretts car. The usual caveats apply in that you should make sure your engine is sound in the first place before placing it under any more pressure.

I'm looking forward to seeing your results, how long does a bottle last?

Well this all depends on how you use it and how you jet it up, apparently there are many variations on jetting IE; 25,35,50 up to 100 bhp shots and the mixture as and when the nitros is injected, it was explained loosely as you have to ballance fuel-air-nitros, also the style of kits are different wet or dry, and the full throttle switch is exactly as it says only injecting nito when the demand is a foot to the floor moment "i like those moments" a nitro maximizer is a dashboard mounting management system that enables you to adjust how progressivly the nitro is injucted this also makes a difference, when your jetted up to the hills and your in first gear racing a wrx away from the lights, fogging them out with tyre smoke is probably all your going to gain as an advantage...

 

[sawood12]

I'm pretty sure Jon Mitchel regailed us tails of his NOS adventures and i'm pretty sure he said he'd used it on a turbo car when off boost to great effect. Only using it when off boost means a bottle might last quite a long while.

 

[rob944s]

ORIGINAL: John Sims

ORIGINAL: rob944s

.......and god knows what this thread will do to the more die hard enthuiast[] where subs and base bins, and some times music is considerd to be the devils work..[]

That'll be me then.

Porsche knew exactly what they were doing 30 years ago and to change anything is a complete abomination.

You'll be fitting spinners and ethnic style door graphics next. []

On the other hand......it sounds like an interesting project and something we have perhaps all thought about but left alone through fear of the unknown. As Paul has also suggested, my main issue is bottle capacity. I have every confidence that NOS would provide a spectacular glory run but can't see that it would be much use on a track day.

A big plus for a Lux though. I have often said that Lux are brilliant cars but lack the grunt if you get a Chav up your bum (not a great picture). NOS would give sufficient boost to frighten them off and leave you alone. [8D]

So in summary - could be an ideal upgrade for a Lux.

Well John, I was actually thinking a "starskey and hutch" stripe would be more fitting, maybe there is a purpose for dark pink after all!! Not that I'm suggesting that I'll change my car colour from the primer grey/metallic nautic blue that it is at the moment. But feel reassured that I'm definately not going to fit any spinners on the car, at least not just yet!

As for bottle capacity, I'm unsure of how may sizes of bottles there actually are. I hear a 5L bottle is quite common and this would be relatively easy to find room for if you lose your CD multi changer from the rear right of the boot well! The prices of NOS do vary, obviously due to how much mark up the supplier is adding per litre and taking into consideration the buying price. The overall cost is extremely competeitive for what you gain in performance, therefore pence per bhp works out good value for money.