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Stevenash56

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I am insured with Admiral and was shunted up the rear yesterday, the lady admitted all liability "I didn't see you" ! Admiral have passed me over to someone called Albany assist who state they will get all repairs done, any personal injury losses and also supply me with a like for like car whilst mines being repaired all at the expense of the others insurance. Has anyone dealt with Albany? Why would Admiral not deal with this themselves?
 
I had exactly the same but with different insurer - with same circumstances (and similar car as it happened). The "other" company (not Albany) started asking a lot of questions with many forms to fill in, so I went back to my insurer and said that I didn't want to proceed down that route. It just didn't feel right.

Similarly, I've no idea why this would be an option - seems a very good way to get premiums hiked up for everyone.

 
Albany like many others are 'Claims management' companies, some are worse than others ie 'Ambulance Chasers'.

Don't get me started on my views of these .....
 
Sadly standard behaviour now of pretty much all car insurance companies is to hand you off to an "claims handling company" .. The claims handling company PAY your insurance company to take on your case and then they recover your costs and all the "inflated" other costs (ie the car hire, the accident claim they will advise you to claim for, their costs etc etc) from the "guilty parties" Insurance company

So say your car costs 500 GBP to repair .. the Accident management company will end up claiming a few thousand to pay for all the costs from the at Fault party ... One of the reasons Car Insurance is so expensive these days [:mad:]
 
Most accident management companies have an angle with anyone in a premium/specialist car i.e a two seat convertible mid engined sports car. Putting you in a like for like car will add hundreds of pounds a day in hirer car charges to the liable insurer.
 
If you decide to go down the hire car route via Albany be careful. The Lady might change her mind about the accident/ decide to sue you for damages to her car etc, in which case Albany will chase you for the money. You can get insured against such an occurrence however.
 
Read very carefully anything you get from Admiral or Albany before you accept their services. There have been plenty of cases where even if the accident wasn't the fault of the party in your position, the other person's insurer has refused to pay the inflated claim from the innocent party's insurer. By this time, the innocent party has already signed a document allowing the other insurer to take the balance of the inflated claim from the innocent party. Some innocent parties have ended up in court having to pay thousands.
 
Indeed.

You have a common law duty to mitigate your losses.

There may be powerful arguments (depending on the OP's personal circumstances) for the defendant's insurers to suggest that receiving a brand new Boxster loan car on credit hire at, say £250 / £300 per day falls somewhere short of that duty.

OP, be cautious and look carefully at what you are signing. If on the other hand, the replacement car is provided directly by the other party's insurers then you would have nothing to worry about - I got a very fancy one when my old BMW was hit in a car park a couple of years ago and no doubt pay the price every time I renew my policies!
 
I had a no-fault claim when my van was hit in the rear, I wasn't even in it at the time. The insurer never got all the costs back, as the amounts were too small to fight for. In the end they paid my excess for me, and a couple of other bits, rather than pursue the guilty party's insurer. I suspect that the huge costs a claims management comany can load the claim with might have caused problems in my case.

Be prepared for a load of calls from people who've heard about your accident and want to help you get everything you're entitled to for your injuries etc. The details get sold on by people like the recovery drivers. [:mad:][:mad:]
 

Personally Steve, I'd be more concerned about ensuring that your car is repaired by a Porsche Approved Repairer, rather than worry about the replacement vehicle. That way your repair will be guaranteed for the life of the car, subject to a yearly inspection, which could prove to be an asset when you come to sell it.

Admiral/Albany will probably try to have the car repaired by their own repairer but you can insist on using your own choice of repairer.

Good luck.!

Jeff
 
Try Steve @ AW Repair group Sleaford , they will give proper advice as they deal with many insurers everyday hope this is of help.
 
I started my career with the Good old "General Accident Fire and Life Assurance Corporation" - anyone else old enough to remember them? They disappeared when they mereged with the Commercial Union, then the greater merger with the Norwich Union and now the combined (and much thinned down) operations are called Aviva. The GA had a branch in pretty much every major town, with a local claims department, staffed by people who spoke reasonably good english and to whom you could complain PERSONALLY if something was not right. They had their "recommended repairers", mainly because they wanted to retain some assurance that if their Staff Motor Engineer (yes, every Branch had at least one of those too) couldn't get to see the damage quickly the repairers could be trusted to get on with the job and he could check the costings later. The "Keep Motoring" policy included the automatic provision of a basic hire car for those who relied upon this as their means of transport nothing extravagent but justifiable and "reasonable in all the circumstances" but you got it without delay, and often delivered to your dooor! If you were (genuinely) injured then you sought out your own lawyer........because you would if you felt it was the right thing to do wouldn't you!?

Sadly when "Direct Line" and others arrived on the market the Great British public wouldnt pay for this superb service so it disappeared, along with the offices and the jobs. Some of these went to call centres in places like Dundee but eventually the call centres went to India and all points where cheap labour was available, Nice to see them coming back though because I for one will not do business with people who when I ring I need an interpreter to talk to.

The Government, bless them, lifted historic restraint placed upon lawyers to avertise as a part of their wonderful plan to cut legal aid bills. I never really understood this because personal injury claims were seldom a drain on the public purse, insurers picked up the costs of all genuine cases. However by allowing all sorts of undesirable practices into the market place as a consequence the Government really let the Genie out of the bottle. Lawyers seeking to expand their businesses (and remember - they are businessmen so don't blame THEM for simply seeking to use an opportunity) didn't even need to Ambulance chase - some set up offices in Hospital A&E departments, paying the Hospital, hungry for some extra cash, for the priviledge). There was a growth of personal injury claims, many of them quite trivial or, dare I say it, blown up out of all proportion in an effort to maximise compensation. you might think that the Courts would fight the rear guard action for right thinking folk but no, Judges just seemed intent upon giving any poor individual willing to stand before them with a tail of woe ridiculous sums of money - OUR money. Remember, insurers are not Charities, what goes out the door in claims, has to come in through premiums. Insurers fuelled the fire themselves sadly and I have not even got into the murky world of legal expenses insurance, claims management companies kick backs etc etc.

So have we now got cheaper insurance and more efficient claims handling via this revolutionary and electronically driven competitive insurance market? I'll leave you all to be the judge. One thing I will say is that no one should let their car insurance automatically renew via their credit card (as many policies are set up like this these days). After about 6 years with one insurer they hiked up my premium on the 407 Diesel this year for no apparent reason by about 66%! I saved that again by shopping around and I was not going to be placated with a more competitive quote from my existing insurer because they have lost me for good now. Ultimately we get what we (collectively) vote with our wallets for and unfortunately the (sometimes poorly thought through) regulations/laws our (often ill informed) Governments give us. I am still waiting to see how long it takes them to sort the current mess out but their imposing short time limits on insurance companies to decide whether they are going to pay claims (many of which may be questionable) is none too helpful either.

Rant mode off.............
 
And for any claim the insurer of the at fault side will do all they can to save their money which you and others have paid in premiums, by either getting a cheap fill and spray or a low trade in value even when you weren't planning on trading the car in, it is this unfair dealing from their position of strength that brought about the accident management companies in the first place.

As for the hire car charges they are a bit high but if you have a 6 year old car, where can you hire a direct replacement? If you're given a poor substitute then you shouldn't you be recompensed for not having use of your own vehicle due to someone else's fault.

If insurers were to be fair to their and other insurers clients then there would be no such companies. When my son had a claim for being rear ended the repairer brought in a management company to get him fair treatment. I have used them twice when being the innocent party otherwise due to someones bad insurer I would have either lost out or had to try to find a lawyer who knew what they were doing to come out of it with no claims etc intact.
 

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