O DEAR ANOTHER POOR PPI NO 6

SEE YA · May 15, 2006

Hello, all my saga goes on just had another poor PPI done on a so called good one 911/930 turbo needs engine out for repairs etc. leaks, exhaust needs replacing, trim dash the list goes on would need at least another £10K on top of asking price. To put everything right to a good running order.
The poor owner found out a few new things about his car as well he paid £23k only eighteen mths ago for it from a trader no names, but you can see planes with the same name in the sky sometimes.
My search goes on for my black 930 turbo 87-89 any help more welcome.
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jamescharnley · May 15, 2006

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Are all these 'poor' cars in a certain price bracket or are they from both ends of the price spectrum?

SEE YA · May 15, 2006

Both ends of the market from between £10 -£20k

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haworthlloyd · May 15, 2006

was that the dark blue one that was on ebay or is that a daft question if your after a black one!

pmjt · May 16, 2006

ORIGINAL: SEE YA

Hello, all my saga goes on just had another poor PPI done on a so called good one 911/930 turbo needs engine out for repairs etc. leaks, exhaust needs replacing, trim dash the list goes on would need at least another £10K on top of asking price. To put everything right to a good running order.
The poor owner found out a few new things about his car as well he paid £23k only eighteen mths ago for it from a trader no names, but you can see planes with the same name in the sky sometimes.
My search goes on for my black 930 turbo 87-89 any help more welcome.
SEE YA

Please don't take this the wrong way - but I've seen your posts on here and other forums - are you sure you're being realistic in what you're looking for in a 15+ year old car?

Consider any other marque and have a look at what you'll get from a 20 year old Ferrari or, Lord forbid, Aston.

The other thing to *seriously* bear in mind is that (and I don't know who's doing your PPI's) if you ask a specialist (dealer) who has nothing to gain from you buying a car they're not selling - they will *always* talk up what's wrong with any car as they will bargain on either a) selling you a car they have in stock / can get or b) getting you to pay for the work to be done on the car you're PPI'ing.

Sometimes just buying the car and enjoying it's faults is the fun of the ownership process....

P

Nick Moss · May 16, 2006

I have just bought an '87 Turbo that needed a respray and a bit of tidying up. As someone who is used to the build and material quality of the pre '74 cars I was amazed at the poor quality of the parts under the car, especially the fittings on the various oil and fuel lines, the paint on the suspension components and the zinc plating. Getting one of these cars up to the standard you are looking for will be an expensive job. I wonder what happened to BOB 640T, "Britain's best Turbo" according to 911 & P World Feb 2005? That sounds like your sort of car.

Andrew Grabham · May 16, 2006

Understand many of the comments on this thread, but this is all about realistic expectations. Most cars a couple of decades old will have imperfections (unless seriously concours) and will have components that are part of the way through their life cycles. I'm putting my 1986 930 up for sale shortly and whilst it has over 100k miles on the clock, it has FSH and had its engine/gearbox overhauls done and it does run beautifully. Whilst it's black, which certain people like me really like, It's not concours. Cars sell when buyer and seller expectations match up in the price stakes.

SEE YA · May 16, 2006

Hello can you please get touch with me .

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SEE YA · May 16, 2006

Hello, all my saga goes on just had another poor PPI done on a so called good one 911/930 turbo needs engine out for repairs etc. leaks, exhaust needs replacing, trim dash the list goes on would need at least another £10K on top of asking price. To put everything right to a good running order.
The poor owner found out a few new things about his car as well he paid £23k only eighteen mths ago for it from a trader no names, but you can see planes with the same name in the sky sometimes.
My search goes on for my black 930 turbo 87-89 any help more welcome.
SEE YA
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Please don't take this the wrong way - but I've seen your posts on here and other forums - are you sure you're being realistic in what you're looking for in a 15+ year old car?

Consider any other marque and have a look at what you'll get from a 20 year old Ferrari or, Lord forbid, Aston.

The other thing to *seriously* bear in mind is that (and I don't know who's doing your PPI's) if you ask a specialist (dealer) who has nothing to gain from you buying a car they're not selling - they will *always* talk up what's wrong with any car as they will bargain on either a) selling you a car they have in stock / can get or b) getting you to pay for the work to be done on the car you're PPI'ing.

Sometimes just buying the car and enjoying it's faults is the fun of the ownership process....

P
Hello, all my PPI's done by an inspection company called Nationwide I know the ages of the cars and what to expect for the age of them. But in some cars it turns into a case of good money after bad the last one would have need £10k to put it alright in the end.

All that on top of the price would have been very silly all I am asking for is a fair report on a decent 930 and not the moon.

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Andrew Grabham · May 16, 2006

Have e mailed you.

Nick Moss · May 16, 2006

Who are Nationwide? Are they Porsche specialists?

911addict · May 16, 2006

Seeya
As I mentioned on Dozzer's other PPI thread, I agree that a thorough inspection with written fault list (by an expert AND yourself- don't rely on the PPI alone, like I did) is a very wise idea. And as I said, some dealers are not as honest as they advertise. be careful out there, and good luck!

Guest · May 16, 2006

Have you thought about buying one in the lower range and spending the 10k on it, at least this way you can make it the car you want. It may take a long time to complete but your searching is also taking longer.

This would also make it a very special car to yourself, theres nothing better than looking back at a well achieved completed project.

I cant see how you could spend much more than 10k on one as long as it reasonable to start with.

SEE YA · May 16, 2006

There is the problem, finding a decent one first to start with.

I do not want a concours car !!!!

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SEE YA · May 16, 2006

ORIGINAL: 911addict

Seeya
As I mentioned on Dozzer's other PPI thread, I agree that a thorough inspection with written fault list (by an expert AND yourself- don't rely on the PPI alone, like I did) is a very wise idea. And as I said, some dealers are not as honest as they advertise. be careful out there, and good luck!

Thanks the search goes on.

SEE YA

Bertroex · May 16, 2006

ORIGINAL: pmjt

Sometimes just buying the car and enjoying it's faults is the fun of the ownership process....

Totally agree here, but this should be reflected in the purchase price as this can give you a budget to tinker with.

Besides, it is always cheaper to buy the best you can find for your budget as rarely your budget will allow for those things you "might as well do whilst you're at it".

Bert (just spend 5 k on an engine rebuild [8|])