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dave364634

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i drove to and from london yesterday (320 miles) and it was ok.

today when i started it the oil light was on.

is this due to the fact the oil is on the low mark of the dipstick or something else? the oil pressure was on a firm 5 bar!

btw i drove to and from london a fortnight ago and it lost no oil at all. i see no marks on the garage floor, so are they prone for leaking piston rings (2.7 8v) or something?

ta. :)
 
Either it needs oil or an outside chance you have a faulty oil level switch. Chances are it needs some oil. Some use it some don't lol. It sometimes comes on when you park on a slope and won't go away till you have shut it down for a while. Earlier cars didn't even have a level switch. Just check the oil and top up if needed. BTW the quoted oil consumption in the owners manual is up to 1.5 litres per 1000 km believe it or not!!!
 
the oil pressure was on a firm 5 bar!

Do you mean the oil pressure reads 5 bar all the time? Should be dropping to around 2.5-3 when hot. If the sender fails it sticks on 5.

My oil light is incredibly sensitive. I check it every second fill-up, but if it drops slightly low it's on like a shot. These cars do use a bit of oil, hence the "check oil" warning on the filler cap.

Could be worse, you could own a rotary Mazda. Then you'll really be using oil! [&:]
 
Im guessing that the OP is referring to the [!] light. I had a virtually new car (a good while ago now...) and the warning! lamp came on whenever I parked at the top of my relatively steep drive. They can be over-sensitive.
 
ORIGINAL: pauljmcnulty

Could be worse, you could own a rotary Mazda. Then you'll really be using oil! [&:]

My friend has an RX8 and I think it uses oil and petrol in equal quantities!!! Oh and the spark plugs of which there are two different types in each loosely called cylinder are 50 quid a pop [:eek:]
 
+1 for sensitive warning light. Mine comes on when I need about half a litre to reach top mark on dipstick. As already said parking on an incline can exaggerate the issue.

However, under hard cornering you don't want to be light on oil so it's probably a good thing. I would conclude that the light is more of an early warning than a concern when you see it. Damn annoying to have to go somewhere staring at the illuminated exclamation mark light though! I am more susceptible to this as my driveway is on an incline! [:mad:]

Stuart
 

ORIGINAL: dave364634


is this due to the fact the oil is on the low mark of the dipstick

Yes. The oil warning light comes on when it gets low.

Top it up to the maximum mark asap
 
Mine is hyper-sensitive too, as soon as it gets near the botom mark the light comes on, usually when I am in a hurry, I now keep a litre in the boot just in case....long time since I have had to do that!
(Mine burns/leaks a fair bit, I stick a pint in a week no matter what the mileage is!)
 
My oil light would occasionally come on and off sometimes flicker
with full oil and great oil presure.
I traced it to be an electrical wire underneath the car that had chaffed
against the under side. some electrical tape did the job never did it again
much relief.
944 was a few years back but may help you never know
Cliff
 
i checked today and the oil was halfway on the mark.

anyway i filled it to the top and it went away.


it's at 5 bar, but i'm only doing 2mile journeys. it went down to 3+ bar the otherday, so i'm assuming it's ok.


btw, isn't 1.5l/1000km worse than an alfa @ 1.5l/1000mile?

rotarys are only good for a lsX conversion imo.
 
I don't think I have ever heard of one that used so much oil but that's what they quote as normal in the book. Covering their butts I suppose.
 

ORIGINAL: robwright

t that's what they quote as normal in the book.  Covering their butts I suppose.

I think you've hit the nail on the head there.

My own car only needs about 2-300ml of top ups between 6000 mile oil changes and its not exactly a low miler
 
Took my car on its first real drive since I bough it this weekend. To Wales and back from London, man I love this car, but that's another story :)
One thing though, bearing in mind I had it serviced 3 weeks ago, the oil light came on after I started this morning and it's been on ever since. The pressure has dropped to about 4.5 bar when driving and about 3 when idling. Though the dipstick says it is full. Unless I am reading it incorrectly. Should you take measurements when the engine is hot/cold? I guess I should add some anyway, but how do I know how much to add if it's supposing already full? And what if I add to much?
Sorry, I am such a novice in these matters, though I am learning

Thanks
 
It shouldn't be on if the dipstick says full. I would check the wiring to the float level switch or the switch itself. I think you may have a fault somewhere on the oil level circuit.
 
Yes - Don't overfill it whatever you do, that is just as bad as being too low.

If the dipstick has it full then the oil level warning light is wrong.
 
ORIGINAL: lookingfora944
One thing though, bearing in mind I had it serviced 3 weeks ago, the oil light came on after I started this morning and it's been on ever since. The pressure has dropped to about 4.5 bar when driving and about 3 when idling. Though the dipstick says it is full. Unless I am reading it incorrectly. Should you take measurements when the engine is hot/cold? I guess I should add some anyway, but how do I know how much to add if it's supposing already full? And what if I add to much?
Dipstick measurements should (I think) be taken with the engine off and cold, and the car on a level surface. And, as has been said, take care not to over-fill - that is bad. I find that, on my S2, it doesn't take much oil loss to cause quite a large drop on the dipstick; it can look a good 1/3 of the way down, but 250-300ml will have it up to the top again, so go easy when topping it up. If you DO over-fill, you need to take some oil out; suck some out of the dipstick tube or the filler pedestal if you have a syringe and tubing, or take the drain plug out briefly.

Oil pressure is much debated. The only definitive thing to say is that it shouldn't drop below 0.5bar. Your pressure measurements sound very normal, but providing a comparison with other cars is slightly meaningless as there are so many variables; how hot the engine is, how long it has been driven for (and how hard), what the amibient air temprature is and what sort of oil you have in the engine, to name a few. The best advice is to keep a weather eye on the gauge, and if it seems to be dropping over time (i.e. it is generally lower, situation-for-situation, than it was six months ago) then think about investigating it. And, clearly, if it suddenly drops while driving, then stop the car and turn the engine off.


Oli.

ETA: The oil level warning light often seems to give a false reading on 944's; mine comes on when the oil is about 1/3 of the way down the dipstick, and often even less. And it sounds like this is a fairly common problem. I suspect that the float on the end of the level indicator probably leaks over time, and thus doesn't float as well as it should, and hence gives artificially low readings, but that's just a guess. Driving your car with a big red warning light illuminated on the dashboard feels very wrong, but if the oil pressure gauge is showing a good reading then don't worry too much about the light; just top it up next time it's convenient.
 
Thanks for the help.

I just took a reading and now according to the dipstick, it is very low on oil, even though it is still on 4.5 bar! Anyway, I went to add some and I realised that I wasn't sure where to put it. There is a yellow cap right next to the dipstick holder that I thought it went in, but you also seem to be able to add it into this thing on the left and towards the front of the car, which I'm assuming is the oil filter!! This is probably the most ridiculous question ever on this forum and I am embarresed to ask, but I don't want to screw anything up :(
 
I suspect that the float on the end of the level indicator probably leaks over time, and thus doesn't float as well as it should, and hence gives artificially low readings, but that's just a guess.

Oli. Quite correct.
There is a small float on the oil level sendor . [In the sump],,Its this that seems to go faulty.
I had the same challenge on my old S2. It turned out to be the dodgy float / sendor...
 

ORIGINAL: lookingfora944
I just took a reading and now according to the dipstick, it is very low on oil, even though it is still on 4.5 bar! Anyway, I went to add some and I realised that I wasn't sure where to put it. There is a yellow cap right next to the dipstick holder that I thought it went in, but you also seem to be able to add it into this thing on the left and towards the front of the car, which I'm assuming is the oil filter!! This is probably the most ridiculous question ever on this forum and I am embarresed to ask, but I don't want to screw anything up :(
Oil level and oil pressure aren't related, other than that if the oil level is too low then the oil pump won't pick up enough oil to work as it should and the oil pressure will drop ('pump starvation'). The oil level on the dipstick should be - even at the lowest point - high enough to ensure that the pump is not starved. If you do get to pump starvation stage then you risk engine damage through lack of oil, and the dipstick marks are set so that this shouldn't happen.

No problems in asking such questions! The oil fill is via a large yellow cap towards the back (windscreen end) of the engine bay, at the back of the inlet manifold. It's just about visible in this photo, circled in red.

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Oli.
 
Oli - you do realise that it will go MUCH faster if you put the bit between the headlights back on ( even maybe faster than the lightweight square dash cars)


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